Re: [orca-list] debian vs. ubuntu

["ashley" <ash cox talktalk net>]

yes, i ment no installer using orca. The debian install (i think) is 
graphical, and it is good for people who don't like or know command line to 
at least be able to install there system before learning.

But yes, grml is a good distribution! I've not managed to get gnome to 
start, but the actual system seams to work.

ashley
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Whapples" <mwhapples aim com>
To: <Orca-list gnome org>
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: [orca-list] debian vs. ubuntu


> Why do you need the sighted assistance to install debian? GRML as well
> as installing GRML to HD can install plain debian, look at the
> grml-debootstrap command http://grml.org/grml-debootstrap/ for details.
>
> When you said there is no installer for debian with software speech, did
> you mean no installer using orca.
>
> Michael Whapples
> On -10/01/37 20:59, Ashley Cox wrote:
> > <div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed">    Yes,
> > the live cd will have a install icon on the desktop.
> >
> > You could also install debian with sighted help, then do the following:
> >
> > go into terminal
> >
> > do:
> > sudo apt-get update
> > sudo aptitude update
> > sudo apt-get install gnome-orca.
> >
> > this will find all packages, including espeak and festival.
> >
> > hth.
> >
> > ashley
> > On 1 Jun 2009, at 10:43, hank smith wrote:
> >
> > > when you get this done can you also tell us how to install to hard
> > > drive?
> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "ashley" <ash cox talktalk net>
> > > To: "Jason Fayre" <jfayre gmail com>
> > > Cc: <orca-list gnome org>
> > > Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 1:48 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [orca-list] debian vs. ubuntu
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi.
> > > >
> > > > Good choise! Debian is better than ubuntu. Its much faster and
> > > > easier to use. At the moment, there is no debian install with
> > > > software speech as far as I know. But i'm working on a pure debian
> > > > live cd with only orca and espeak. This means that it won't be the
> > > > same as vinux, it will be a standard debian install with software
> > > > speech support.
> > > >
> > > > ashley
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Fayre" <jfayre gmail com>
> > > > To: <orca-list gnome org>
> > > > Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 2:14 AM
> > > > Subject: [orca-list] debian vs. ubuntu
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > I am considering switching my netbook over to Debian Lenny.  Does
> > > > > anyone
> > > > > know if it is possible to do an accessible install of Debian?  I don't
> > > > > have easy access to a braille display, so I will need to use software
> > > > > speech.
> > > > > I read somewhere that Orca doesn't get installed by default.  Is there
> > > > > any way of doing this as a blind person?
> > > > >
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> > > > > The manual is at
> > > > > http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
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