Re: [orca-list] Repeated punctuation - bug #591724 (Re: Verbalized punctuation (was Re: more than one blank space arenot recognizedin thunderbird))

[Willie Walker <William Walker Sun COM>]

Sorry - I meant to write:

[1] - a debug.out that you captured while experiencing the problem, of 
course, and preferably isolated to just the problem

Willie Walker wrote:
> Hi Paul (and all):
>
> For the repeated punctuation problem, please refer to 
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=591724 and help us out by 
> attaching a debug.out[1] file to the bug.
>
> Will
>
> Paul Hunt wrote:
> > It makes sense to me.
> >
> > Orca is announcing both the punctuation symbol that is actually in the 
> > text and also another punctuationsymbol (the same one) that it is 
> > inserting itself in order to give the text the correct inflection or 
> > to insert an appropriate pause.
> >
> > Obviously a bug.
> >
> > On 13/08/09 17:35, David E. Price wrote:
> > > Hi, Will,
> > >
> > > > The verbalized punctuation in Orca comes in after Orca has built up 
> > > > the string to send to the synthesis engine.  Thus, if Orca inserts a 
> > > > '.' when building up a string, it will be verbalized if the user has 
> > > > requested the relevant punctuation level.
> > > >
> > > > Orca adds the '.' character to help with the prosody/pacing of 
> > > > spoken output as well as the fundamental pitch contour.  In this 
> > > > cycle, we added the '.' character to the end of mnemonics because we 
> > > > had a complaint: without it, the pitch of the character being spoken 
> > > > was incorrect and causing confusion.
> > >
> > > I'm not sure that this is causing the problem. This issue has been 
> > > around for a while, and I notice it most when using period, 
> > > exclamation, and question marks. So, if you put in two spaces 
> > > following one of these punctuation characters, you hear the preceding 
> > > punctuation character spoken twice, such as "period period", 
> > > "exclamation exclamation" or "question question". I don't see how 
> > > that is related to adding a following apostrophe to the string.
> > >
> > > I can't generate a debug log at the moment (the machine where I'm 
> > > currently working has gnome 2.16 and Orca 1.0), but I'll try to 
> > > generate one tonight on my laptop (gnome 2.26 and Orca from git 
> > > before the last flag day).  I'll file a bug and add the debug log to it.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > dave
>
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