Re: [orca-list] Verbalized punctuation (was Re: more than one blank space arenot recognizedin thunderbird)

[Paul Hunt <huntp ukonline co uk>]

It makes sense to me.

Orca is announcing both the punctuation symbol that is actually in the 
text and also another punctuationsymbol (the same one) that it is 
inserting itself in order to give the text the correct inflection or to 
insert an appropriate pause.

Obviously a bug.

On 13/08/09 17:35, David E. Price wrote:
> Hi, Will,
>
> > The verbalized punctuation in Orca comes in after Orca has built up 
> > the string to send to the synthesis engine.  Thus, if Orca inserts a 
> > '.' when building up a string, it will be verbalized if the user has 
> > requested the relevant punctuation level.
> >
> > Orca adds the '.' character to help with the prosody/pacing of spoken 
> > output as well as the fundamental pitch contour.  In this cycle, we 
> > added the '.' character to the end of mnemonics because we had a 
> > complaint: without it, the pitch of the character being spoken was 
> > incorrect and causing confusion.
>
> I'm not sure that this is causing the problem. This issue has been 
> around for a while, and I notice it most when using period, 
> exclamation, and question marks. So, if you put in two spaces 
> following one of these punctuation characters, you hear the preceding 
> punctuation character spoken twice, such as "period period", 
> "exclamation exclamation" or "question question". I don't see how that 
> is related to adding a following apostrophe to the string.
>
> I can't generate a debug log at the moment (the machine where I'm 
> currently working has gnome 2.16 and Orca 1.0), but I'll try to 
> generate one tonight on my laptop (gnome 2.26 and Orca from git before 
> the last flag day).  I'll file a bug and add the debug log to it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> dave