----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 1:44
PM
Subject: Re: [orca-list] updating orca
question
Hi, Kyle,
The "official" Orca response to this question
is that you should be using the version of Orca that matches the version of
the gnome desktop you are using. Essentially, Orca version 2.24.x should
work well with gnome version 2.24.x So, if you want to keep a stable
version of Orca, you should stick with the 2.24 branch as long as your
version of gnome is 2.24--you can find the version of gnome you are using
from the following command:
gnome-about --version
That being said, I'm currently using Orca from
svn trunk that is version 2.27.1pre with gnome version 2.24. As soon as
Ubuntu 9.04 comes out, I'll upgrade to that, which has gnome 2.26. You risk
instabilities in Orca if you use a version of Orca that does not match the
version of gnome. If you are willing to take that risk and live on the
bleeding edge, you can upgrade to Orca branch 2.26. Right now, it should
work without problems, but that may not last into the future. If you want to
try it, here is what I would suggest:
Check out the Orca 2.26 branch from svn, but
put it into a different directory (keep your 2.24 branch as it is). This
would be done using the following command
Then cd into orca-2-26 and run autogen.sh,
make, and sudo make install.
Next time you start Orca, you will be using
version 2.26. Keep updating this branch by going into the orca-2-26
directory and follow the procedure you just used to update the 2.24 branch.
If Orca 2.26 becomes unstable and you want to go back to the 2.24
branch, do the following:
cd into the orca-2-26 directory
sudo make uninstall
cd into the orca 2.24 directory (for you, it is
currently ~/downloads/orca)
sudo make install
This will reinstall Orca 2.24, having removed
anything incompatible from 2.26.
If you want to be even safer, you can do it a
different way. It involves installing a second version of Orca in a
local directory. Decide where you want to keep the second version of Orca (I
use a directory called orcabuild in my home directory
(/home/deprice/orcabuild). Using that path as an example, here is what you
do:
Check out the Orca 2.26 branch as described
above
./autogen.sh --prefix=/home/deprice/orcabuild
make
make install
It is important that, each time you update the
2.26 branch, you need to have the --prefix switch on the autogen.sh command.
If you follow this procedure, you will have the Orca 2.24 branch installed
in the normal place and the 2.26 branch installed locally. To start
Orca 2.24, you just type orca on the command line as normal. To start the
Orca 2.26 branch, you need to either move into the orcabuild/bin
directory
and type ./orca or set up a symbolic link in a
directory that is in your path that points to ~/orcabuild/bin/orca.
With this method, you can switch back and forth between different versions
of orca very easily. Recognize, though, that this method also comes with a
potential problem built in. If, in developing Orca 2.28, the Orca team makes
changes to the way things are handled in your .orca directory (where all of
the Orca settings are stored), you will run into problems switching back and
forth.
As I said, you are moving out onto the bleeding
edge and it comes with risks.
Hope this helps,
dave
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 12:55
PM
Subject: Re: [orca-list] updating
orca question
hi ok i've checked my version and I'm using
2.24 this means that I'm not using the latest branch from what you've
said. Should I just wait keep doing svn update each week untill it
updates? or should I be doing something different? sorry for all the
emails. I've only been using linux for a few months and haven't found a
lot on this.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 7:16
AM
Subject: Re: [orca-list] updating
orca question
Hi,
I haven't looked, but I'm guessing that
will be installed if you do the build-dep command--that is:
sudo apt-get build-dep gnome-orca
I'm guessing that, at some point, you did
an autoremove and cleared away all the dependencies you need to build
orca. Give it a try and see if it clears up the error.
Good luck,
dave
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009
12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [orca-list] updating
orca question
well when I installed orca I only
updated using the instructions poasted I didn't use the website.
and yes the downloads/orca directery is corect. I tryed to do
sbn up and the autojen and got this
message
Updated to revision
4662.
kyle ubuntu:~/downloads/orca$
./autogen.sh
/usr/bin/gnome-autogen.sh
graphic 322 checking for autoconf >=
2.53...
testing autoconf2.50... not
found.
testing autoconf... found
2.61
checking for automake >=
1.9...
testing automake-1.10... not
found.
graphic 322 testing automake-1.9... found
1.9.6
checking for libtool >=
1.5...
testing libtoolize... found
2.2.4
checking for glib-gettext >=
2.2.0...
testing glib-gettextize... not
found.
***Error***: You must have glib-gettext >= 2.2.0
installed
graphic 879 to build orca. Download the appropriate
package
for
from your distribution or get the source tarball
at
ftp://ftp.gtk.org/pub/gtk/v2.2/glib-2.2.0.tar.gz
graphic
because I'm really trying not to brake
things should
I now go download that with wget ftp etc and extract the try
./configure in the directery?
thank u for all your help its really
apreciated
kyle
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009
7:00 AM
Subject: Re: [orca-list]
updating orca question
Hi, Kyle,
Definitely not a silly question. To
start off with, if you want to stay up to date with the Orca branch,
you should update your version of Orca at least every time Will
Walker sends out a message to this list announcing a new version of
that branch (that is, 2.24.x). That is a minimum. However, if
you want to get the new features sooner, then you can update more
often, such as every week or two. On the other hand, I don't know
how often updates to the 2.24 branch will occur in the future, given
that 2.26 has just been released. I don't believe that they
make many, if any, changes to a branch once they have released a
newer branch. I'm sure Will or someone else on the development team
will correct me if that statement is incorrect.
As to the method you described, a lot
of it is no longer needed if you have built from a branch before.
For instance, if you have followed this process once before, you
will not need to install gnome-common, automake, or svn again. Also,
once you have removed gnome-orca using apt-get, you never need to do
that again. As for the command:
sudo apt-get build-dep gnome-orca
you shouldn't need to do that one again
unless you have executed the following command:
sudo apt-get autoremove
It won't hurt to run any of these
commands a second time--the output will just tell you that
everything is up-to-date or that gnome-orca isn't
installed.
If you have built a branch from svn
before, all you need to do is get into the directory where you
downloaded the svn source files (in your case, it looks like
~/downloads/orca, then do the following:
svn up
./autogen.sh
make
sudo make install
The "svn up" command downloads any new files or changes to
existing files from the svn repository. If there are no updates to
download, you'll get a message saying something like "at revision
4641". If you get this message, you need go no further. The other
three commands build and install Orca.
Just for clarity, I should add one more
thing. If you had just continued using the gnome-orca package,
you would have gotten the branch updates eventually. It takes some
time between the release of a new version within the branch (those
messages Will sends out) and the updates getting into the
repositories for your version of Linux. Ubuntu has a reputation for
doing this quickly, but I have no knowledge to back that
up.
Hope this helps,
dave
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 01,
2009 9:51 AM
Subject: [orca-list] updating
orca question
Hi all sorry if this seems a silly
question but I've been using ubuntu8.10 for a while and when i
first installed I updated orca with the commands at the bottom of
this message. I was reading threw a site just now and it says to
stay up to date to do things a different way. so I'm wundering how
do I best stay up to date with my orca instalation? should I
use
or
sudo apt-get build-dep gnome-orca
sudo apt-get install subversion
gnome-common automake1.9
./autojen.sh
make
sudo apt-get remove gnome-orca
yes
u want to remove the old version because your instaling the new
one.
sudo make install
ault f2 for a new terminal and type
"orca" which will close and reopen orca.
I just want to stay on top of my
updates to orca and ubuntu itself. I regularly do apt-get update
apt-get upgrade aptget dist-upgrade but last I new orca wasn't
encluded in any of the packages or updates?
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