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Hi, Kyle,
The "official" Orca response to this question is
that you should be using the version of Orca that matches the version of the
gnome desktop you are using. Essentially, Orca version 2.24.x should work well
with gnome version 2.24.x So, if you want to keep a stable version of
Orca, you should stick with the 2.24 branch as long as your version of gnome is
2.24--you can find the version of gnome you are using from the following
command:
gnome-about --version
That being said, I'm currently using Orca from svn
trunk that is version 2.27.1pre with gnome version 2.24. As soon as Ubuntu 9.04
comes out, I'll upgrade to that, which has gnome 2.26. You risk instabilities in
Orca if you use a version of Orca that does not match the version of gnome. If
you are willing to take that risk and live on the bleeding edge, you can upgrade
to Orca branch 2.26. Right now, it should work without problems, but that may
not last into the future. If you want to try it, here is what I would
suggest:
Check out the Orca 2.26 branch from svn, but put it
into a different directory (keep your 2.24 branch as it is). This would be
done using the following command
Then cd into orca-2-26 and run autogen.sh, make,
and sudo make install.
Next time you start Orca, you will be using version
2.26. Keep updating this branch by going into the orca-2-26 directory and
follow the procedure you just used to update the 2.24 branch. If Orca 2.26
becomes unstable and you want to go back to the 2.24 branch, do the
following:
cd into the orca-2-26 directory
sudo make uninstall
cd into the orca 2.24 directory (for you, it is
currently ~/downloads/orca)
sudo make install
This will reinstall Orca 2.24, having removed
anything incompatible from 2.26.
If you want to be even safer, you can do it a
different way. It involves installing a second version of Orca in a local
directory. Decide where you want to keep the second version of Orca (I use a
directory called orcabuild in my home directory (/home/deprice/orcabuild). Using
that path as an example, here is what you do:
Check out the Orca 2.26 branch as described above
./autogen.sh --prefix=/home/deprice/orcabuild
make
sudo make install
It is important that, each time you update the 2.26
branch, you need to have the --prefix switch on the autogen.sh command. If you
follow this procedure, you will have the Orca 2.24 branch installed in the
normal place and the 2.26 branch installed locally. To start Orca 2.24,
you just type orca on the command line as normal. To start the Orca 2.26 branch,
you need to either move into the orcabuild/bin directory
and type ./orca or set up a symbolic link in a
directory that is in your path that points to ~/orcabuild/bin/orca. With
this method, you can switch back and forth between different versions of orca
very easily. Recognize, though, that this method also comes with a potential
problem built in. If, in developing Orca 2.28, the Orca team makes changes to
the way things are handled in your .orca directory (where all of the Orca
settings are stored), you will run into problems switching back and forth.
As I said, you are moving out onto the bleeding
edge and it comes with risks.
Hope this helps,
dave
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 12:55
PM
Subject: Re: [orca-list] updating orca
question
hi ok i've checked my version and I'm using 2.24
this means that I'm not using the latest branch from what you've said. Should
I just wait keep doing svn update each week untill it updates? or should I be
doing something different? sorry for all the emails. I've only been using
linux for a few months and haven't found a lot on this.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 7:16
AM
Subject: Re: [orca-list] updating orca
question
Hi,
I haven't looked, but I'm guessing that will be
installed if you do the build-dep command--that is:
sudo apt-get build-dep gnome-orca
I'm guessing that, at some point, you did an
autoremove and cleared away all the dependencies you need to build orca.
Give it a try and see if it clears up the error.
Good luck,
dave
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 12:08
PM
Subject: Re: [orca-list] updating
orca question
well when I installed orca I only
updated using the instructions poasted I didn't use the website. and
yes the downloads/orca directery is corect. I tryed to do
sbn up and the autojen and got this
message
Updated to revision
4662.
kyle ubuntu:~/downloads/orca$
./autogen.sh
/usr/bin/gnome-autogen.sh
graphic 322 checking for autoconf >=
2.53...
testing autoconf2.50... not
found.
testing autoconf... found
2.61
checking for automake >=
1.9...
testing automake-1.10... not
found.
graphic 322 testing automake-1.9... found
1.9.6
checking for libtool >=
1.5...
testing libtoolize... found
2.2.4
checking for glib-gettext >=
2.2.0...
testing glib-gettextize... not
found.
***Error***: You must have glib-gettext >= 2.2.0
installed
graphic 879 to build orca. Download the appropriate
package
for
from your distribution or get the source tarball
at
ftp://ftp.gtk.org/pub/gtk/v2.2/glib-2.2.0.tar.gz
graphic
because I'm really trying not to brake
things should
I now go download that with wget ftp etc and extract the try ./configure
in the directery?
thank u for all your help its really
apreciated
kyle
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 7:00
AM
Subject: Re: [orca-list] updating
orca question
Hi, Kyle,
Definitely not a silly question. To start
off with, if you want to stay up to date with the Orca branch, you
should update your version of Orca at least every time Will Walker sends
out a message to this list announcing a new version of that branch (that
is, 2.24.x). That is a minimum. However, if you want to get the
new features sooner, then you can update more often, such as every week
or two. On the other hand, I don't know how often updates to the 2.24
branch will occur in the future, given that 2.26 has just been
released. I don't believe that they make many, if any, changes to
a branch once they have released a newer branch. I'm sure Will or
someone else on the development team will correct me if that statement
is incorrect.
As to the method you described, a lot of it
is no longer needed if you have built from a branch before. For
instance, if you have followed this process once before, you will not
need to install gnome-common, automake, or svn again. Also, once you
have removed gnome-orca using apt-get, you never need to do that again.
As for the command:
sudo apt-get build-dep gnome-orca
you shouldn't need to do that one again
unless you have executed the following command:
sudo apt-get autoremove
It won't hurt to run any of these commands
a second time--the output will just tell you that everything is
up-to-date or that gnome-orca isn't installed.
If you have built a branch from svn before,
all you need to do is get into the directory where you downloaded the
svn source files (in your case, it looks like ~/downloads/orca,
then do the following:
svn up
./autogen.sh
make
sudo make install
The "svn up" command downloads any new files or changes to existing files from
the svn repository. If there are no updates to download, you'll get a
message saying something like "at revision 4641". If you get this
message, you need go no further. The other three commands build and
install Orca.
Just for clarity, I should add one more
thing. If you had just continued using the gnome-orca package, you
would have gotten the branch updates eventually. It takes some time
between the release of a new version within the branch (those messages
Will sends out) and the updates getting into the repositories for your
version of Linux. Ubuntu has a reputation for doing this quickly, but I
have no knowledge to back that up.
Hope this helps,
dave
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009
9:51 AM
Subject: [orca-list] updating
orca question
Hi all sorry if this seems a silly
question but I've been using ubuntu8.10 for a while and when i first
installed I updated orca with the commands at the bottom of this
message. I was reading threw a site just now and it says to stay up to
date to do things a different way. so I'm wundering how do I best stay
up to date with my orca instalation? should I use
or
sudo apt-get build-dep gnome-orca
sudo apt-get install subversion
gnome-common automake1.9
./autojen.sh
make
sudo apt-get remove gnome-orca
yes u
want to remove the old version because your instaling the new
one.
sudo make install
ault f2 for a new terminal and type
"orca" which will close and reopen orca.
I just want to stay on top of my updates
to orca and ubuntu itself. I regularly do apt-get update apt-get
upgrade aptget dist-upgrade but last I new orca wasn't encluded in any
of the packages or updates?
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