Re: [orca-list] Thunderbird 3 accessibility

[Willie Walker <William Walker Sun COM>]

Hi Peter:

> > Keyboard review punctuation in Firefox
> > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=520494
...
> > Text selection is not announced in Firefox
> > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=412100
...

Adding thunderbird-specific comments would serve as a good reminder to 
us to test with thunderbird as well.  Thanks!

> > Can you describe this in more detail? For example, when you arrow up or
> > down, what is currently being presented and what would you prefer be
> > presented?
> I am sorry. It's not a treeview it's a table however it reports its 
> level. You know I am new comer from windows and there the only controls 
> showing hierarchy by reporting their level are treeviews. Levels for 
> menus and other controls are brought to windows with Iaccessible2 (but 
> this is another story).

I think you might be running into a table where the messages might be 
nested because of threading.  If you have the threaded view enabled, 
replies to messages and replies to replies get nested under the original 
message.  Orca might be failing miserably when attempting to present the 
information.

> Focus should be returned to the table where you have opened the message 
> from. You can hear all the header names e.g. before it will say the 
> subject line of the message you've just landed on you will hear column 
> header attachments. Hopefully this is not going to be translation 
> dependand stuff because I am runing slovak version of thunderbird.

This may be that reading the entire row of a table is enabled.  Try 
experimenting with that setting by pressing Orca+F11 to toggle it and 
see what happens.

We also did some work in the Evolution script to make it a bit smarter 
about what it reads for an entire row, and the ideas might be something 
we need to carry over to the Thunderbird script.

> > Wow. Yeah...that's a huge list. Are you able to get a visual description
> > of the display when Orca is not running? I'm curious if this might be a
> > general Thunderbird performance problem or if it is specific to Orca.
> I am not sure this is general issue. at this time I have got no 
> assistance to confirm. Although I am afraid these tables and treeviews 
> are all a bit sluggish almost every where. (e.g. pidgin contact list, 
> list of tracks in rhytm box, gedit open dialog etc.).

It would definitely be good to try to figure out if this is a general 
Thunderbird performance problem or one that only manifests itself when 
Orca is running.  If you happen to have sighted assistance at some point 
when you're working in this folder again, it would be great just to try 
to confirm it.

Thanks again for your thoughtful and detailed comments!

Will