Re: [orca-list] Thunderbird 3 accessibility

[Peter Vágner <peter v datagate sk>]

Hello,

Willie Walker  wrote:
> Keyboard review punctuation in Firefox
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=520494
Right. The patches from this bug fixes this issue in thunderbird 3 as well.


> Text selection is not announced in Firefox
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=412100
Yes i'd say this is the same bug. Let me add another example so you can 
judge your-self.
Let's imagine the following message loaded in thunderbird 3:


Line1
Line2
Line3


Now focus is at the begining of the first line. Pressing shift+down 
produces Line2 as this is the right report of the cursor movement.


> Orca does not always speak the correct information when navigating
> and/or selecting text across object boundaries in OOo Writer
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=517048
I don't think this might be related or at least it can't be determined 
right now as it looks as if no selection dependant actions are anounced 
in thunderbird 3. Of course it is possible to identify a selection 
according to the cursor movement as shown above.


> Orca doesn't always speak expected message when selecting all
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=517127
>
> Orca does not provide access to text attributes in Firefox
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=434780
I think the same applies to these 2 bugs.


> Can you describe this in more detail? For example, when you arrow up or
> down, what is currently being presented and what would you prefer be
> presented?
I am sorry. It's not a treeview it's a table however it reports its 
level. You know I am new comer from windows and there the only controls 
showing hierarchy by reporting their level are treeviews. Levels for 
menus and other controls are brought to windows with Iaccessible2 (but 
this is another story).

When moving up and down in this table I don't see a problem it does not 
speak table headers. But when focusing that control these are anounced.
You can simulate that by doing the following:
1) open any message in thunderbird 3
2) press esc key to close it.
Focus should be returned to the table where you have opened the message 
from. You can hear all the header names e.g. before it will say the 
subject line of the message you've just landed on you will hear column 
header attachments. Hopefully this is not going to be translation 
dependand stuff because I am runing slovak version of thunderbird.


> Wow. Yeah...that's a huge list. Are you able to get a visual description
> of the display when Orca is not running? I'm curious if this might be a
> general Thunderbird performance problem or if it is specific to Orca.
I am not sure this is general issue. at this time I have got no 
assistance to confirm. Although I am afraid these tables and treeviews 
are all a bit sluggish almost every where. (e.g. pidgin contact list, 
list of tracks in rhytm box, gedit open dialog etc.).


> It's OK, and we thank you for bringing these issues up!

Should I post some comments to the individual bugreports that it also 
affects thunderbird?

thanks

Peter