Re: [orca-list] Orca development

[Michael Whapples <mwhapples aim com>]

On Mon, 2008-06-02 at 13:48 +0530, Krishnakant Mane wrote:
> On 01/06/2008, Michael Whapples <mwhapples aim com> wrote:
> > Please find my comments/answers inline below.
> > On Sun, 2008-06-01 at 07:20 -0300, E.J. Zufelt wrote:
> > > Good morning,
> > >
> > > I've taken a look at Orca, I like it, but wouldn't use it for more
> > > than something to play around with.  I far prefer JAWS and Eloquence
> > > under WinXP.
> What exactly did you not like about orca?  for example, I personally
> used jaws for quite some time and also tried window-eyes.  but none of
> them seam to be useful to say the least after I have seen the power of
> orca.
> I would rather say that orca is one of the best screen readers and has
> great potential too.  not to mention that jaws is developed by freedom
> scientific and I don't think there is any freedom involved with jaws
> and nor is it scientific.
> Please tell the list specifically what you found absent or what
> particularly was some thing you expected and did not find, or is it
> just the voice?
> it is highly possible that you did not use orca to its full potentials
> and might not have discovered the power.  so do read the documentation
> in details.
> > If you prefer the sound of eloquence, then you can get IB TTS which is
> > basically the same as eloquence for Linux. I believe there are two
> > different ways of getting it, ttsynth (http://ttsynth.com) or voxin
> > (http://voxin.oralux.net).
> michael, are these two softwares free (as in freedom ) or just free of
> charge yet proprietory or do we need to pay for it?
> I would be interested in trying them out too.
Both TTSynth and voxin are not free in any sense, you will need to pay
for them and the actual synth is closed source. They both use viavoice
as the actual synth, but vary significantly in price, voxin is $5.78
compared to the sum of $40.00 being requested for ttsynth.
> > > So, can someone lead me to a good getting started page / wiki for
> > > helping to improve Orca?  I'd like to contribute so that Orca can
> > > become something I can use full-time and I can get rid of XP.
> > What sort of things were you meaning? Do you need any getting started
> > with orca docs to make sure you are using it to its full potential, or
> > do you want more technical docs such as getting started with writing
> > scripts, getting useful information for bugs ,etc. One place you can
> > start is by reporting any bugs, use the bug tracking facility at
> > (http://bugzilla.gnome.org) for searching for, viewing and submitting
> > bug reports.
> it is really apprecieable that people are now realising the beauty and
> wonders of this freedom world which RMS and free software moment has
> started.
> I am really happy that people want to take full advantage of the fact
> that source code is open to modify and are willing to bring in more
> power to free software.
> talking about scripting, well I am in the same boat.  I also need to
> get started and as I mentioned in my previous emails specially
> addressed to wili, I am really now having a botleneck.  I am clear
> with the arketecture concepts and now want some proper documentation
> about scripting, and also about how actually to use the knowledge I
> have about the arketecture to script orca.  I want to know for example
> how the scripting model of orca associates itself with at-spi calls
> and the pipeline through wich different applications pass on their
> information.
> so let's hope we have some updates on this from the seasoned hackers
> of orca.  seams the scripting tutorial is not uptodate.
> happy hacking.
> Krishnakant.
> > If you wish to add some application specific stuff, then learn about
> > scripting for orca (in fact if you want to do any development of orca
> > you most likely will need to) learn python. I found the python tutorial
> > in the standard python documentation and dive into python both good
> > starting points for learning python.
> > > Thank you,
> > > Everett
> >
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