Re: [orca-list] virtual Carret is not stored in Minefield when returning from another window

[Steve Holmes <steve holmesgrown com>]

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Is this also the case with the ayer script that was posted on the
list? I don't know python well enough to enterrogate that script
myself.  If I recall, it takes the place of yelp and creates a temp
folder with the online help documents converted to HTML to be viewed
by firefox.  Maybe I have the wrong idea or something.  I recalled
this working better a little earlier.  I wish I could remember
precisely when this functionality stopped being so reliable.  But
with the incremental svn pulls and FF nightly builds, I probably lost
track.

On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 11:41:01AM -0500, Willie Walker wrote:
> Hi Steve:
>
> The problem with help is that the application that provides it, yelp, is 
> using the old Gecko rendering engine which is not very accessible.  We 
> need to get yelp migrated to the new Gecko engine that's used by Firefox 
> 3.  This won't happen until Firefox 3.0 is released along with the new 
> Gecko engine, however, because the yelp folks cannot depend upon 
> unreleased software.
>
> Help in Firefox 3 itself, however, should work because I believe it's 
> providing its own help and not relying upon yelp.
>
> We're tracking the problems here:
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=356041
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=499744
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Will
>
> Steve Holmes wrote:
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> > I just installed firefox from 01/27/2008 and yes, the focus problem
> > goes away.  But alas,  the help is hopelessly broken.  Well almost
> > hopelessly:).  I tried the help (F1) from the terminal and from the
> > file browser and both help files gave me problems.  In all cases, the
> > flat review keys don't speak at all. Some times after switching
> > screens with another web page like paypal or something, I can
> > sometimes get the help page to work.  But I think in all cases, the
> > flat review keys don't work at all during the help screens.  Well, I
> > just alt tabbed over to firefox with a help window showing and I got
> > the flat review keys to speak  but every time I tried to review
> > current line, it always reads the top level menu bar.
> >
> > So you were looking for an example of where the flat review keys don't
> > work properly, just go to your nearest help panel, use the ayer script
> > that was furnished on the list here and open it up.  You will see the
> > problems I'm having as well as the flat keys staying at the top of the
> > screen.  I'm pretty sure you can go and read down line by line but it
> > obviously is not syncing with the cursor.  Also before I forget, much
> > of this help problem is pressing the regular up and down arrow keys
> > yields silence.
> >
> > HTH.
> >
> > P>S>  I haven't heard much on the help deal here. Does anyone use
> > online help much? I need it heavily in order to learn my way around
> > this new environment.
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 05:14:26PM -0500, Scott Haeger wrote:
> > > Hey Steve. Have you tried the 1/27 version of Firefox? I know the focus 
> > > event is good in that version. I am curious to know if it fixes your 
> > > problem. I just checked the latest version of Firefox and the focus 
> > > event problem is still there. I had hoped that would be fixed by now but 
> > > it is not.
> > >
> > > Scott
> >
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