Re: [orca-list] Punctuation, capital letters, exchange of characters and strings, generally error in the design of Orca

[Steve Holmes <steve holmesgrown com>]

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Luke, I couldn't agree with you more.  Why not really finish one
project before moving on to something else.  I hear of this sort of
thing all too often where one project is something like 85% done or
whatever and then the developer goes off to something else, starts
over with it and pretty much abbandons the original.  If Speech
dispatcher was all complete and debugged and all that and then they
want to go and develop a new and better tool for the same task, that's
another matter.  In terms of configurability and the ability to share
with other platforms and all, I would think speech dispatcher would be
the way to go and it works today.  This TTS API I've been hearing
about for some time is nowhere close to use in prime time; at least I
haven't heard of anyone using it yet.

On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 08:42:52AM +1000, Luke Yelavich wrote:
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> On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 12:27:39AM EST, Willie Walker wrote:
> > Until it is complete, stable, and we're sure it helps us meet the user 
> > requirements, I cannot make SpeechDispatcher a supported part of Orca. 
> > We have at least gotten to the point where we've identified the API that 
> > will be exposed to Orca, which is the speechd Python bindings.  With the 
> > exception of some things, it sees like a viable API, though I need to 
> > dig into it a little deeper.
> >
> > Assuming the API is workable as is, do you have an estimate for the 
> > amount of work (cost and timeframe) needed to complete the 
> > implementation and provide complete support for at least eSpeak, 
> > Festival, Cepstral, DECtalk, and IBMTTS?  What is your support model and 
> > release schedule going to be once the implementation is done?  What is 
> > your community model going to be (e.g., can others outside Brailcom 
> > contribute patches/enhancements to SpeechDispatcher)?
>
> I'd just like to make my voice heard, as an Ubuntu and Accessibility developer/integrater. I too think 
> speech-dispatcher is the way of the future, but I certainly don't see a need to re-implement it, purely in 
> python. Will, I think we would be better off extending the current speech-dispatcher, both saving time, and 
> allowing a cross-platform/cross-desktop solution to be ready that much sooner.
>
> KDE will likely have some form of accessibility in the future, with their own tools. I think both desktops 
> should be using the *ONE* speech backend. KDE accessibility folks have already stated that they would 
> choose speech-dispatcher in the event they get accessibility things going, in whatever form that may be. So 
> I am of the belief that we should be doing our best towards making *ONE* speech backend the standard now, 
> and get it in shape in the quickest and most efficient way possible.
>
> I've been considering using speech-dispatcher in Ubuntu's next release, instead of GNOME-speech, as that is 
> what users want. I am not going to bother with making this change, if we are only going to have to replace 
> it later, with a re-implementation that seems to me, unnecessary, as the existing project/package can be 
> extended. As far as my work on Ubuntu/with Canonical will allow, I am willing to help spend time helping to 
> code the extra bits that are needed, dispite the fact that I don't know a lot about the speech-dispatcher 
> architecture. I want to get the best tools available into users hands just as much as the next person, but 
> if we are still going to be changing bits and pieces into the future, we are possibly going to put off 
> future users, and developers, who come from other platforms.
>
> Luke
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