But why! Can you not just wait for a second?
From: rjc [mailto:rjc MIT EDU]
Sent: 17 October 2007 22:54
To: Darragh
Cc: Orca List
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Booting Ubuntu into Orca involves too
muchcomplicatedkey-sequence (F5, Down, Down, Down, Enter)
>or
listen for inactivity, press f5, pres 3 then enter twice. Itâs really not
rocket science. Remember, weâve come a long way in terms of access to
Linux
Remember,
from a virtual machine this doesn't work at all. There is no way to know when
to press the magic key sequence. We need some sort of beep sound during boot -
simple and practical, nothing fancy.
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Sent: Wednesday, October
17, 2007 5:11 PM
Subject: RE: [orca-list]
Booting Ubuntu into Orca involves too muchcomplicatedkey-sequence (F5, Down,
Down, Down, Enter)
We must also remember that we are only a small minority of users
of this distribution. Remember, the developers have already done a lot to
assure we have fantastic access to this. Letâs not push too far
though.
Iâm not saying your ideas arenât very valid however, at this
stage, access to the installation is very possible. Turn on the PC, wait
for a few moments or listen for inactivity, press f5, pres 3 then enter
twice. Itâs really not rocket science. Remember, weâve come a long
way in terms of access to Linux but thereâs still a lot to do. Letâs
prioritise our battles a bit more. The most current thread in relation to
gnome speech is a perfect example. Letâs work on getting access to the
best sound output source as we can. Let developers consintrate on one issue
at a time.
Sorry. Rant over. Iâll get back off my soap box and
install ubuntu 7.10.
Iâm back in windows at the moment because my laptop just died so
Iâm in a really bad mood so your just going to have to excuse my rant.
From: orca-list-bounces gnome org
[mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On Behalf Of rjc
Sent: 17 October 2007 22:15
To: Mike Reiser
Cc: Orca List
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Booting Ubuntu into Orca involves too
muchcomplicatedkey-sequence (F5, Down, Down, Down, Enter)
I
think there needs to be a sound omitted when boot keys can be pressed. Ya sure
you can listen for CDRom and hard drive noises, but this is very unreliable and
completely irrelevant when trying to boot a virtual machine. I'd suggest
some sort of tripple beep from the PC speaker - something which won't be
confused with other boot-time beeps - doesn't have to be pretty, just
distinctive!!!
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Sent: Wednesday, October
17, 2007 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [orca-list]
Booting Ubuntu into Orca involves too muchcomplicatedkey-sequence (F5, Down,
Down, Down, Enter)
That
would be nice or some how set up a talking boot menu like oralux had.
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Sent: Wednesday, October
17, 2007 7:54 AM
Subject: [orca-list] Booting
Ubuntu into Orca involves too much complicatedkey-sequence (F5, Down, Down,
Down, Enter)
Hi there,
In Ubuntu, during the boot stage the user is shown the
following options after pressing F5 (See Accessible Install of Ubuntu Feisty
):
- None (has focus)
- High Contrast
- Magnifier
- Screen Reader
- Keyboard Modifiers
- On Screen Keyboard
I this that the 'Screen Reader' option should be the first
option, so that in order to save a blind user from counting the number of times
that he/she have to press the 'Down' button.
Actually, it would be better if the 'Screen Reader' had its own function key
assigned to, say F10, so that blind users can start Orca with one press of a
button, rather than having to press 'F5, Down, Down, Down, Enter', which seems
a bit demanding, considering the fact that typing the wrong key sequence
results in an un-usable boot from the view point of a blind person.
I guess it would be hard to persuade Ubuntu team to allocate a function key for
Orca in the main boot menu, but it worth a shot.
Promoting the 'Screen Reader' option be the first option in the 'F5' menu is
also an adequate solution, as the user would only press 'F5, Enter'.
What do you think?
Tomer
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