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>or listen for inactivity, press f5, pres 3 then
enter twice. Itâs really not rocket science. Remember, weâve come a
long way in terms of access to Linux
Remember, from a virtual machine this doesn't
work at all. There is no way to know when to press the magic key sequence. We
need some sort of beep sound during boot - simple and practical, nothing
fancy.
-- Rich
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 5:11
PM
Subject: RE: [orca-list] Booting Ubuntu
into Orca involves too muchcomplicatedkey-sequence (F5, Down, Down, Down,
Enter)
We
must also remember that we are only a small minority of users of this
distribution. Remember, the developers have already done a lot to assure
we have fantastic access to this. Letâs not push too far
though.
Iâm
not saying your ideas arenât very valid however, at this stage, access to the
installation is very possible. Turn on the PC, wait for a few moments or
listen for inactivity, press f5, pres 3 then enter twice. Itâs really
not rocket science. Remember, weâve come a long way in terms of access
to Linux but thereâs still a lot to do. Letâs prioritise our battles a
bit more. The most current thread in relation to gnome speech is a
perfect example. Letâs work on getting access to the best sound output
source as we can. Let developers consintrate on one issue at a time.
Sorry.
Rant over. Iâll get back off my soap box and install ubuntu
7.10.
Iâm
back in windows at the moment because my laptop just died so Iâm in a really
bad mood so your just going to have to excuse my rant.
From:
orca-list-bounces gnome org [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On Behalf
Of rjc
Sent: 17 October 2007 22:15
To: Mike
Reiser
Cc: Orca List
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Booting
Ubuntu into Orca involves too muchcomplicatedkey-sequence (F5, Down, Down,
Down, Enter)
I think there needs
to be a sound omitted when boot keys can be pressed. Ya sure you can listen
for CDRom and hard drive noises, but this is very unreliable and completely
irrelevant when trying to boot a virtual machine. I'd suggest some sort
of tripple beep from the PC speaker - something which won't be confused with
other boot-time beeps - doesn't have to be pretty, just
distinctive!!!
----- Original
Message -----
Sent: Wednesday,
October 17, 2007 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [orca-list]
Booting Ubuntu into Orca involves too muchcomplicatedkey-sequence (F5, Down,
Down, Down, Enter)
That would be
nice or some how set up a talking boot menu like oralux had.
----- Original
Message -----
Sent: Wednesday,
October 17, 2007 7:54 AM
Subject: [orca-list]
Booting Ubuntu into Orca involves too much complicatedkey-sequence (F5,
Down, Down, Down, Enter)
Hi there,
In Ubuntu, during the boot stage the user is shown the
following options after pressing F5 (See Accessible Install of
Ubuntu Feisty ):
- None
(has focus)
- High
Contrast
- Magnifier
- Screen
Reader
- Keyboard
Modifiers
- On
Screen Keyboard
I this that the 'Screen Reader' option should be the
first option, so that in order to save a blind user from counting the
number of times that he/she have to press the 'Down'
button.
Actually, it would be better if the 'Screen Reader' had its
own function key assigned to, say F10, so that blind users can start Orca
with one press of a button, rather than having to press 'F5, Down, Down,
Down, Enter', which seems a bit demanding, considering the fact that
typing the wrong key sequence results in an un-usable boot from the view
point of a blind person.
I guess it would be hard to persuade
Ubuntu team to allocate a function key for Orca in the main boot menu, but
it worth a shot.
Promoting the 'Screen Reader' option be the first
option in the 'F5' menu is also an adequate solution, as the user would
only press 'F5, Enter'.
What do you
think?
Tomer
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