Re: [orca-list] Keyboard Mode Flat Review Bug

[Michael Whapples <mwhapples aim com>]

I would consider it a bug, but may be its not my area to talk as I
prefer not to have key echo anyway.

I would have thought this may be simple to resolve, orca knows when the
key is a command (as it does the command). The question is should orca
try to supress this when a command key is pressed, or should echo key
press be only when key is not a command key (only if key is not a
command will orca try to speak key press, opposed to trying to stop orca
speaking the key press if the key is a command key, subtle difference
but how would they compare for performance).

From
Michael Whapples
On Wed, 2007-10-03 at 15:37 -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> I'm sure running without key echo isn't terribly problematical--but
> that's not a real answer.
>
> I'm sorry I didn't catch this when you reported it, because I would
> certainly want to support the notion that this isn't a bug.
>
> Maybe the people who think it's not a bug will speak up? I must tell you
> I'm rather stunned by what you said about this.
>
> Janina
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> Janina
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> Jon writes:
> > Yes, hence my initial suggestion, that they would be scilanced somehow 
> > by orca.
> >
> > to be honest, it isn't too much of a problem to operate without keyecho, 
> > but what you suggest would be the prefered/expected mode of operation.
> >
> > I don't really know how much of an effort it would be to 'swallow' these 
> > keys, so can't comment from that point of view.
> > -Jon
> > On Wed 03/10/2007 at 15:09:03, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > That's outrageous. Keys used for review have nothing to do with input.
> > > Echoing them makes using flat review hopelessly cumbersome. Is the
> > > notion that somehow your brain isn't supposed to hear those chars while
> > > you hear what you're reviewing? Most brains don't work that way, imho.
> > > Mine doesn't.
> > >
> > > Oh, it's a bug all right. 
> > >
> > > Do you mean to tell me that were I to enable echoing of function keys,
> > > I'd hear "page up" and "page down" and "home" etc when using flat review
> > > on the numeric keypad? Ridiculous and unusable.
> > >
> > >
> > > Jon writes:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I have reported this before, but it wasnt seen as a bug by some other
> > > > members, I was told to simply disable the key echo.
> > > >
> > > > -Jon
> > > >
> > > > On Wed 03/10/2007 at 13:50:58, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > > > I am hearing my key presses echo'd while attempting to read the
> > > > > screen.  In other words, if I hold down CapsLock and press 'k' to
> > > > > hear the current word, or 'i' to hear the current line, i first hear
> > > > > "k" followed by current word, or "i" followed by current line.
> > > > >
> > > > > This would be a bug, imho, but I don't see a bug for it. I can
> > > > > attest it happens for one other Fedora user. Is it just us?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -- 
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