Re: [orca-list] speech-dispatcher works but needs manual start everytime for orca.

["Michael Whapples" <mwhapples aim com>]

It is possible to get speech-dispatcher and espeak to give punctuation, but 
it isn't the simplest task if you only want some spoken.

What you need to do is edit the espeak-generic.conf file and in the espeak 
part of the command specify the punctuation option (the espeak option not a 
speech-dispatcher option, I think it may be -k, but if you enter
espeak --help
at a command prompt it will print out a usage message which describes the 
options including the punctuation one). It is possible to also hand in a 
list of punctuation characters which espeak should speak (I think its that 
way round, not ones it should ignore), and this is how you can achieve a 
punctuation level setting (although it won't be configurable whilst running 
orca without restarting speech-dispatcher).

Why other apps like emacspeak may not complain about speech-dispatcher not 
supporting punctuation levels with espeak, is that the parameter can be set, 
but as the espeak module doesn't support punctuation levels it just ignores 
the command. It may also be like speakup which rather than sending the 
character, it sends the actual words for the punctuation character eg. ? is 
sent as "question", allowing the actual screen reader/app to configure the 
level internally rather than getting speech-dispatcher to manage it.

From
Michael Whapples
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "krishnakant Mane" <researchbase gmail com>
To: "Michael Whapples" <mwhapples aim com>
Cc: <orca-list gnome org>
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: [orca-list] speech-dispatcher works but needs manual start 
everytime for orca.


> hi michael,
> so in short as herman and tomas declared, there is no way to hear
> punctuations in orca with sd?
> this is actually strange because people who use speach-dispatcher with
> say for example emacspeak, never seam to complain about this at least
> as far as my knowledge goes.
> and if at all it is we will need to wait and watch.
> regards,
> Krishnakant.
> On 18/05/07, Michael Whapples <mwhapples aim com> wrote:
> > One thing I noticed, you mention setting the punctuation level to most, 
> > are
> > you using espeak with espeak? If so one thing you should possibly be 
> > aware
> > of is that due to the espeak module being a generic module (executes a 
> > shell
> > command) it doesn't actually support punctuation levels (as far as
> > speech-dispatcher goes, I don't know if orca gives the word name for the
> > punctuation when using the speech-dispatcher backend so getting round 
> > this
> > limitation). I don't know what the issue is when using gnome-terminal, 
> > but
> > normally if I need to do stuff at the command line I go back to proper 
> > text
> > console and speakup as I think that works better.
> >
> > From
> > Michael Whapples
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "krishnakant Mane" <researchbase gmail com>
> > To: <orca-list gnome org>
> > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 7:07 AM
> > Subject: [orca-list] speech-dispatcher works but needs manual start
> > everytime for orca.
> >
> >
> > > hello herman and all listers.
> > > I have finally got sd working consistently with orca and I have
> > > absolutely no problems so far.
> > > the speech quality is superb except that orca does not speek the $
> > > prompt in the terminal even after setting the punctuation to most.
> > > however I am facing a tedious job to get sd started every time I start
> > > my laptop.
> > > firstly as herman suggested I did
> > > sudo update-rc.d speech-dispatcher defaults.
> > > I get the output that says, system startup link for speech-dispatcher
> > > already exists.
> > > I also changed the user=speech-dispatcher to root in the
> > > init./speech-dispatcher script.
> > > but when I run sudo /etc/init.d/speech-dispatcher start, it says can't
> > > create pid file in /var/run/speech-dispatcher wrong permissions.
> > > what could be the problem.
> > > I further found out that there is no such directory called
> > > /var/run/speech-dispatcher.
> > > I now have to first manually create the directory in /var/run and then
> > > chmod it for read write and execute permissions.
> > > then when I do the /etc/init.d/speech-dispatcher start, it works fine.
> > > the next time I re boot the machine the directory is gone and I have
> > > to do the same things again, modus operandy.
> > > regarsd,
> > > Krishnakant.
> > >
> > >