Re: Orca My experiences with FireFox 3.0 and


Two points - firstly, going back on this thread a little bit.

The biggest problem that a screen reader, in my experience,  faces when
trying to deal with controls on a web page are those which have not been
correctly programmed / linked.

Taking the radio button issue for a moment.

If you have a series of radio buttons with text on both sides of it, which
side is the correct side that represents the text for that radio button?
Although the standard is generally to have the radio button on the left and
the text on the right, there are sites which do this the other way around.

Ok, generally speaking they are encompassed in a separate block, but it,
from my experience, seems to be that web designers will put a user control
on a page , and add the text afterwards as a separate unlinked lable.

So although Herman's fix works in Google, it may require the flat review to
actually work out what text relates to which control on other pages by
listening to the context.

Secondly, as an aside, I am not one of the bleeding edge fans, but wonder if
anyone has tested any sites that use accessabile keys to aid in navigation?

For instance the BBC site uses Alt + number to jump the cursor to a
pre-defined user control on their page.  This key combination differs
depending on the browser used but most appear to use the Alt key.


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Sent: 10 March 2007 16:32
To: krister kristersplace ws
Cc: orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: Orca My experiences with FireFox 3.0 and

Hello Krister,
regarding you first argument: I seldom experienced such a situation,
and, if this happens, I always find a way out. You can always turn the
virtual mode off, you can use several webtools )some are free, for
example see Audiodata's Webformator). And screen readers such as Window
Eyes are able to track the mouse when using the browser mode, because
you move it with the keypad absolutely independend.
Forms mode: You musn't dramatize the situation. What "dreading!"
experience do you have?
Design of webpages: This seems to me a different problem from navigating
a page. Again: You can always turn the buffer off to see how the page
looks. And: To design a visually attractive webpage is something very
difficault for a blind person. You never can surely check out how a
certain graphic or image really looks like. So, if I would have to
design a website that should be visited by the public, I would prefere
to have a sighted person to have a final look on it. (We even don't know
much about the needs of other handicaped persons).
And one final aspect: I prefere to do my work quick, so why take an hour
to explore a webpage, if I can do the same in 20 minutes using such a
nice feature like the virtual buffer.
The reasons I switched to Linux are finance, security and privacy, and
not that i was fed up with the virtual buffer.
And what are doing if you want to read a printed text document? You need
an OCR I guess; and which system do you use then?

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