Re: Is gtk4 support in libnma still EXPERIMENTAL?

[Thomas Haller <thaller redhat com>]

On Thu, 2022-03-24 at 10:47 +0100, Michael Biebl wrote:
> Am 13.03.22 um 22:18 schrieb Thomas Haller:
> > On Sun, 2022-03-13 at 16:01 +0100, Michael Biebl wrote:
> > > Am 13.03.22 um 12:46 schrieb Thomas Haller:
> > > > On Sat, 2022-03-12 at 21:55 +0100, Michael Biebl wrote:
> > >
> > > > > ./usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/girepository-1.0/NMA4-1.0.typelib
> > > > > ./usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnma-gtk4.so
> > > > > ./usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnma-gtk4.so.0.0.0
> > > > > ./usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/pkgconfig/libnma-gtk4.pc
> > > > > ./usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnma-gtk4.so.0
> > > > > ./usr/share/vala/vapi/libnma-gtk4.vapi
> > > > > ./usr/share/vala/vapi/libnma-gtk4.deps
> > > > > ./usr/share/gir-1.0/NMA4-1.0.gir
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > yes. I think it's fine. is there a problem?
> > > >
> > > > You cannot load gtk3 and gtk4 in the same application, and
> > > > consequently, you cannot load libnma.so (gtk3) and libnma-gtk4
> > > > together.
> > > >
> > > > libnma is a GUI library based on GTK. It seems not unreasonable
> > > > that
> > > > the GTK version is part of the library name -- in particular,
> > > > as
> > > > there
> > > > might come GTK5 in the future.
> > > >
> > > > These are really two different libraries (with very similar API
> > > > and
> > > > the
> > > > same underlying sources).
> > >
> > > I see the necessity and maybe this is just bike shedding on my
> > > side
> > > but
> > > I'd personally prefer the gtk part being dropped, so the soname
> > > becomes
> > > libnma-4.so.0
> > > And correspondingly libnma-4.pc (libnma4.pc would be fine as
> > > well).
> > >
> > > Or do we have some prior art where the gtkX string is encoded in
> > > the
> > > library soname?
> > >
> > > I also find it a bit inconsistent that the gobject instrospection
> > > files
> > > do not have GTK string embedded.
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> > I tend to agree.
> >
> > but it might be too late for that... even if it was announced as
> > experimental :)
> >
> > Lubomir, wdyt?
>
> Could we have some definitive answer if the naming is going to stay?
> I have a request in Debian to enable gtk4 support in libnma but
> before 
> doing that, I'd like to have an answer here first.

hi

it's gonna stay.

Lubomir argued that the name is actually good.

In the meantime there are now also two releases (1.8.34 and 1.8.36). At
this point, it would seem a bad idea to rename -- regardless any
arguments in favor.


best,
Thomas