Re: [Pm-utils] Trouble waking from sleep



On Fri, 2009-05-15 at 19:34 -0400, Dan Williams wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-05-15 at 16:25 +0200, Christopher Lang wrote:
> > Dan,
> > 
> > thanks, for pointing me into the right direction, the 
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477964 has it all.
> > 
> > 
> > However I would like to point out a few inconsistencies, that are still 
> > present in git repositories:
> > 
> > 1. git repo from today, NetworkManager:
> > file NetworkManager/initscript/Arch/networkmanager.in
> > 
> > This one is using --type=method_call \ in the dbus-send, which is 
> > non-blocking, but makes dbus-send use "dbus_message_new_method_call" to set 
> > up the message, rather than "dbus_message_new_signal"
> 
> I wasn't aware arch had that functionality actually; that should be
> fixed.
> 
> > 2. git repo from today, pm-utils:
> > file pm-utils/pm/sleep.d/55NetworkManager
> > 
> > This one still has the dbus-send without anything, no --print-reply and 
> > no --type=method_call.
> 
> right, I believe upstream pm-utils was leaning towards fixing dbus
> rather than this hack, but given that I don't believe upstream dbus will
> fix the issue soon, we may have to go back to pm-utils upstream and
> convince them to take the fix.
> 
> The other thing I was going to do was just to ship the pm-utils files in
> NetworkManager, thus we can do what we want with them.

This is what I prefer -- getting service-specific hooks into the
packages that provide them is the Right Thing to do.  We have pkg-config
support in pm-utils these days, so conditionally building in the hooks
should be pretty easy.

> Dan
> 
> > 3. None of the current git repositores uses the --print-reply as suggested in 
> > the above bug report.
> > 
> > 
> > Conclusion:
> > 
> > Using dbus-send to send "sleep" or "wake" to NM is causing problems, due to 
> > dbus sometimes loosing messages of short lived processes - this is known and 
> > confirmed.
> > 
> > Using --print-reply in NM related dbus-send calls is confirmed to work, but is 
> > highly questionable in my eyes, because it is blocking, worst case this will 
> > block for the default dbus timeout value (is that 2 sec. or so?).
> > 
> > 
> > Using --type=method_call (which is in the NM initscript, but not yet in 
> > pm-utils git) might or might not fix the sleep/wake issue that is caused by 
> > dbus loosing messages of short lived processes. It forces dbus-send to use:
> > 
> > dbus_message_new_method_call
> > dbus_connection_send (connection, message, NULL);
> > dbus_connection_flush (connection);
> > 
> > where the "flush" according to dbus docs blocks until the message queue is 
> > empty and so far *should* ensure our "sleep" or "wake " to go through. So it 
> > should be used in pm-utils too. It is in NM git already.
> > 
> > Chris
> > 
> > http://www.acurana.de/
> > 
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