Re: FC8

[Stefan Seyfried <seife suse de>]

Tambet Ingo wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Stefan Seyfried <seife suse de> wrote:
>>  I think that by just using the bits that are readily available, a much better
>>  user experience would be possible today.
> 
> Sigh, I'm getting tired of hearing "use umtsmon" in every thread that
> has a word "3g" or "umts" in it.

I did not say "use umtsmon", i suggested to make use of the knowledge that has
flown into it. But yes, it's nih, so this probably won't happen.

> Until umtsmon works with CDMA (Dan
> has explained it multiple times already), uses HAL for device
> discovery (opening random files in /proc and /sys is so last century),
> and most importantly, implements a DBus interface to control and
> receive status changes, NetworkManager simply can not use it. Not
> depending on Qt would certainly be a bonus too for a non-gui backend.

Umtsmon deliberately does not use HAL, since it is meant as a temporary
solution until NM is ready, and it is intended to be usable on a little bit
older systems that might not have the latest HAL. Umtsmon is not intended to
be a backend for anything, and it would be pretty hard to hack it into that.

Again: i was objecting the "we cannot do this because the evil card
maufacturers don't provide specs", which is the answer to every inquiry about
proper 3G support and is, IMVHO plain FUD.
It is possible.
It has been done.
-- 
Stefan Seyfried
R&D Team Mobile Devices            |              "Any ideas, John?"
SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Nürnberg | "Well, surrounding them's out."

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