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I address each of these issues with short reference quotes rather than quoting the entire previous emails. > 1) Captive portals ... > 2) pinging google/root-dns/whatever ... > 3) page-scraping google/yahoo/whatever ... > 4) ARP-ing a known MAC ... > 5) Proxies: pretty much explanatory ... The issues you bring up are good, and I will continue to think about the problem and present ideas. > A bit problem here is user trust issues ... > A good example of this issue is the Firefox SSL self-signed-certificate I completely agree, if the user gets false positives anything more than 1 in 100 times then the functionality is detrimental as your burdened with extra code and ui complexity without any real benefit. Oh believe me when I say I understand this problem all too well. > I'm not against it, I just need to see an implementation that doesn't > have too many false-positives and doesn't have too many false negatives > first. That may be possible, the main barriers we have are: 1) Captive Portals, 2) Proxies 3) VPNs (issue?) 4) Causing lots of traffic > The big question I have is "What does Vista do?" I don't think it's worth looking at Vista, (and no not because it's windows) I don't believe it's worth looking at a flawed system (as you've pointed out) when the system is hidden and the problem should be solvable from first principles. > In the end, it's certainly possible for an external tool ... I do believe that there is room for a research project which can test methods. But I strongly object to any formal project since it would complicate functionality, responsibility and make the NH project complacent in incorporating such functionality without significant want from core developers. Now an Idea I just had was a kind of DNS test which would look at 2 or 3 domains to see if any addresses come back (no dns) if the addresses are all the same (Captive Portals). I'm not very familar with proxies and vpns to have a clear idea of the results from those set ups. This may in fact be related to the "Search Domains" which windows has had for a long time but I can't be sure. Thoughts? Best Regards, Martin Owens _______________________________________________ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list gnome org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list