Re: Network Manager Wifi thoughts

["Fanen A." <afanen01 gmail com>]

I think that this kind of indication about the reachability of the
wider "internet" is quite useful. It's one thing to be connected to a
network, which is what you want quite often, but I also think it is
even more likely that you want to be connected to the internet via a
particular network or access point.

Such an indication is useful IMHO.

On 4/2/08, Martin Owens <doctormo gmail com> wrote:
> Thanks for your reply,
>
> >  - The status of my network connection has nothing to do with whether the
> >  network I'm connected to can access google.com (or any other arbitrary
> >  domain). Networks without internet connectivity are as valid a use case
> >  an any other.
>
> In parlance I agree, it's technically more accurate to display network
> connection only. And yet the lack of any notifier to the common non
> technical user does loose valuable information about what they're
> concerned about: namely weather they are on the internet or not. I
> would argue that have a robust notifier of internet connectivity would
> be in keeping with the general network manager ethos of keeping things
> simple of strait forward for the users.
>
> >  - What do you mean by "google.com is really google.com"? That it
> >  resolves to a known IP, or block of IPs? That you can connect to it via
> >  HTTP, and that the result looks like it should? Note that if I connect
> >  to 'google.com', it actually HTTP redirects me twice, first to
> >  'www.google.com', and then to 'www.google.co.nz'. Not to mention the
> >  proxy that HTTP traffic has to go through...
>
> If we're talking methods then it could check that the dns ip addresses
> it's been given are valid, or it could check a number of things. http
> site availability is just one of them.
>
> Best Regards, Martin Owens
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