Re: Request for ergonomy feature

["Joel Goguen" <jtgoguen gmail com>]

I have a need for it, and I imagine it's a common one.  I have a
wireless network at home, and I put the laptop to sleep and head to my
university.  When I get there, I have to wait sometimes minutes for
the list to refresh and my campus network to appear so NM can attempt
to connect to it.  Or I can open a terminal and manually restart NM,
but that's not something a common user should be expected to do IMO.
When I first get to campus I still see all the networks I can see from
my house, even though none of them are anywhere near the campus.
After a few minutes of waiting, during which I'm checking the applet
list at least once every 30 seconds, the list finally refreshes and NM
connects to my campus network.  This doesn't seem very user-friendly
to me.


On 10/11/07, Dan Williams <dcbw redhat com> wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 18:08 +0300, Joan B. Moreau wrote:
> > Ok, but it is just a pain in the *ss this bug, and everybody complains.
> >
> > Please, rather than saying "I disagree", maybe propose an alternative,
> > because it is really annoying bug.
>
> We already discussed alternatives on this list.  First, NM should scan
> quite quickly after dropping the menu down, as long as NM has not
> scanned within the last 20 seconds.  Currently that may not be the case,
> it might push off the scan for 20 seconds.  This is a case of a bug that
> should be fixed (if it exists).
>
> Furthermore, I don't believe that it's that much of a burden to check
> the menu twice.  Can you refresh my memory as to what situations
> explicitly scanning for networks is necessary?  The applet should be
> kept simple, additional functionality that doesn't fit in the applet can
> certainly be farmed out to other tools that are not the applet or NM.
> The applet should cover 90% of all users needs 90% of the time.  It
> should _not_ cover 100% of all users needs 100% of the time.  There are
> some features that just won't be implemented.  I believe explicitly scan
> requests fit in that last 10%.  I may be able to be convinced otherwise.
>
> Dan
>
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> > Dan Williams wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 17:20 +0300, Joan B. Moreau wrote:
> > >
> > >> I know this has been posted and discussed already, but this bug is *so*
> > >> annoying, that I guess I am not the only "simple user" having troubles
> > >> with that.
> > >>
> > >> Would it be possible to fix it ?
> > >>
> > >
> > > I still don't agree that this is the right way to solve the issue.
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > >
> > >> Thanks a lot
> > >>
> > >> JM
> > >>
> > >> Joan B. Moreau wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi all,
> > >>>
> > >>> I like the applet but here my request in terms of ergonomy:
> > >>>
> > >>> Would it be possible to stop triggering a scan when clicking on the
> > >>> applet (which people do quite frequently to see the available networks)
> > >>> but rather put a menu item "scan for available networks" that we can
> > >>> click when one decide so  ?
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks
> > >>>
> > >>> Joan
> > >>>
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