Re: Finding existing PPP connection?

[Derek Atkins <warlord MIT EDU>]

Huh, I've got multiple modems configured just fine (in FC5).
And as for the username/password, I just use web/web.
You could also supply it and then add 'noauth' to the PPP options.

-derek

"Jason Greb" <jgreb electronerdz com> writes:

> I can probably use the generic system (Gnome) network connections to
> create a dial up connection. There is only two problems. One is I can't
> seem to add multiple modems (as if I had the Sprint Card, and a built-in
> traditional modem), and the other is that Sprint doesn't need (and I
> believe doesn't even work with) a username. I can't create a connection
> in Gnome without a username. The Close/Apply button goes grey until you
> enter a username. I also can't do special things like persistent
> connections (the connection drops after 150 minutes or so) and lcp echos
> (unless this is all written to ppp0 in Ubuntu).
>
> What about two different plugins for PPPD and WVDial? Just how many
> dialers are there? I only know of the two, but I am sure there are some
> others out there... But they probably don't run NM on those computers
> anyway.
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: networkmanager-list-bounces gnome org
> [mailto:networkmanager-list-bounces gnome org] On Behalf Of Derek Atkins
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 5:08 PM
> To: Dan Williams
> Cc: NetworkManager-list gnome org
> Subject: Re: Finding existing PPP connection?
>
> With SprintPCS I've always been able to just configure the connection
> via the Fedora Network configuration tool, then it shows up in NM and I
> can just turn it on and off.  This was true with my old 1xRTT service
> and appears to be the case with the EVDO service, too (although I'm in a
> physical location where the EVDO service drops in and out).
>
> So, I see no reason that NM can't do this as-is.
>
> -derek
>
> Quoting Dan Williams <dcbw redhat com>:
>
>> On Thu, 2006-12-14 at 16:19 -0500, Darren Albers wrote:
>>> You can and it works just like any other modem except I dial #777 (Or
>
>>> whatever the vendor wants you to dial) and use a generic username 
>>> with no password.  The Chatscript is provided by the phone vendors 
>>> (Or at least Sierra Wireless provided one for my card).  I think some
>
>>> providers require a PIN but I am not sure how that is handled.
>>
>> I'd like to do these bits as automatically as we can, I think.  For 
>> example, can wvdial automatically figure out your modem init strings?
>> Or does it _really_ need a chat file?  How different are the various 
>> carrier PPP servers?  Stuff like that...
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>> gprsec (http://gprsec.linuxforum.hu) is the tool I currently use for 
>>> my Cingular (GSM card) and I just use pppon for my on-call Verizon 
>>> (EVDO Card).
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Darren
>>>
>>> On 12/14/06, Dan Williams <dcbw redhat com> wrote:
>>> > On Thu, 2006-12-14 at 11:03 -0500, Jason C. Greb wrote:
>>> > > What about looking to see if ppp0 is an active connection? I have
>
>>> > > a program called conky that I run on the desktop, and it polls 
>>> > > ppp0. When it gets an IP address, it displays it along with 
>>> > > transfer statistics. I have the same problem as Matej, because I 
>>> > > can't make VPN connections because NM doesn't know it's
> connected.
>>> >
>>> > Yeah, I know that's a problem.  But I'd like to do this the "right"
>
>>> > way, even if it takes a few more weeks or such.  Which means doing 
>>> > the hard integration work and making it "Just Work" rather than 
>>> > trying to shoehorn in stuff to accommodate the 10 different ways 
>>> > Linux distros currently do PPP stuff.
>>> >
>>> > Quick question though; for those of you doing PPP over GPRS/EDGE or
>
>>> > EVDO cards, can you use wvdial?  What does your connection process 
>>> > look like and how did you set up the card/connection?
>>> >
>>> > Dan
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> > > Jason
>>> > >
>>> > > On Thu, 2006-12-14 at 10:23 -0500, Dan Williams wrote:
>>> > > > On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 16:06 +0000, Matej Cepl wrote:
>>> > > > > Hi,
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > I know there are some attempts to make PPP working with NM,
>>> but I have
>>> > > > > slightly more simple answer. Is it possible to *discover*
>>> existing PPP
>>> > > > > connection with NM created by other means (i.e., running
>>> wvdial in su-ued
>>> > > > > gnome-terminal)? I have incredibly crappy connection (or bad
>>> support for
>>> > > > > PCMCIA GPRS card in Linux, I don't know), so it takes me
>>> three or four or
>>> > > > > more attempts to get connection, but then it would be nice
>>> if NM could
>>> > > > > find out that the connection happened and inform other
>>> programs (Epiphany,
>>> > > > > Evolution, etc.) about being connected, and if NM would be 
>>> > > > > able to establish VPN connection over that. Is it possible, 
>>> > > > > or I am
>>> just dreaming
>>> > > > > RFE?
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Probably dreaming for an RFE, sorry :)  There's no really good
>>> way I can
>>> > > > think of to detect an already running PPP instance since the
>>> pieces just
>>> > > > aren't there to do it well.  Hence the work to make PPP more 
>>> > > > integrated...
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Dan
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
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