RE: Finding existing PPP connection?

["Jason Greb" <jgreb electronerdz com>]

I can probably use the generic system (Gnome) network connections to
create a dial up connection. There is only two problems. One is I can't
seem to add multiple modems (as if I had the Sprint Card, and a built-in
traditional modem), and the other is that Sprint doesn't need (and I
believe doesn't even work with) a username. I can't create a connection
in Gnome without a username. The Close/Apply button goes grey until you
enter a username. I also can't do special things like persistent
connections (the connection drops after 150 minutes or so) and lcp echos
(unless this is all written to ppp0 in Ubuntu).

What about two different plugins for PPPD and WVDial? Just how many
dialers are there? I only know of the two, but I am sure there are some
others out there... But they probably don't run NM on those computers
anyway.

Jason C. Greb
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-----Original Message-----
From: networkmanager-list-bounces gnome org
[mailto:networkmanager-list-bounces gnome org] On Behalf Of Derek Atkins
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 5:08 PM
To: Dan Williams
Cc: NetworkManager-list gnome org
Subject: Re: Finding existing PPP connection?

With SprintPCS I've always been able to just configure the connection
via the Fedora Network configuration tool, then it shows up in NM and I
can just turn it on and off.  This was true with my old 1xRTT service
and appears to be the case with the EVDO service, too (although I'm in a
physical location where the EVDO service drops in and out).

So, I see no reason that NM can't do this as-is.

-derek

Quoting Dan Williams <dcbw redhat com>:

> On Thu, 2006-12-14 at 16:19 -0500, Darren Albers wrote:
>> You can and it works just like any other modem except I dial #777 (Or

>> whatever the vendor wants you to dial) and use a generic username 
>> with no password.  The Chatscript is provided by the phone vendors 
>> (Or at least Sierra Wireless provided one for my card).  I think some

>> providers require a PIN but I am not sure how that is handled.
>
> I'd like to do these bits as automatically as we can, I think.  For 
> example, can wvdial automatically figure out your modem init strings?
> Or does it _really_ need a chat file?  How different are the various 
> carrier PPP servers?  Stuff like that...
>
> Dan
>
>> gprsec (http://gprsec.linuxforum.hu) is the tool I currently use for 
>> my Cingular (GSM card) and I just use pppon for my on-call Verizon 
>> (EVDO Card).
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Darren
>>
>> On 12/14/06, Dan Williams <dcbw redhat com> wrote:
>> > On Thu, 2006-12-14 at 11:03 -0500, Jason C. Greb wrote:
>> > > What about looking to see if ppp0 is an active connection? I have

>> > > a program called conky that I run on the desktop, and it polls 
>> > > ppp0. When it gets an IP address, it displays it along with 
>> > > transfer statistics. I have the same problem as Matej, because I 
>> > > can't make VPN connections because NM doesn't know it's
connected.
>> >
>> > Yeah, I know that's a problem.  But I'd like to do this the "right"

>> > way, even if it takes a few more weeks or such.  Which means doing 
>> > the hard integration work and making it "Just Work" rather than 
>> > trying to shoehorn in stuff to accommodate the 10 different ways 
>> > Linux distros currently do PPP stuff.
>> >
>> > Quick question though; for those of you doing PPP over GPRS/EDGE or

>> > EVDO cards, can you use wvdial?  What does your connection process 
>> > look like and how did you set up the card/connection?
>> >
>> > Dan
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Jason
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, 2006-12-14 at 10:23 -0500, Dan Williams wrote:
>> > > > On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 16:06 +0000, Matej Cepl wrote:
>> > > > > Hi,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I know there are some attempts to make PPP working with NM,
>> but I have
>> > > > > slightly more simple answer. Is it possible to *discover*
>> existing PPP
>> > > > > connection with NM created by other means (i.e., running
>> wvdial in su-ued
>> > > > > gnome-terminal)? I have incredibly crappy connection (or bad
>> support for
>> > > > > PCMCIA GPRS card in Linux, I don't know), so it takes me
>> three or four or
>> > > > > more attempts to get connection, but then it would be nice
>> if NM could
>> > > > > find out that the connection happened and inform other
>> programs (Epiphany,
>> > > > > Evolution, etc.) about being connected, and if NM would be 
>> > > > > able to establish VPN connection over that. Is it possible, 
>> > > > > or I am
>> just dreaming
>> > > > > RFE?
>> > > >
>> > > > Probably dreaming for an RFE, sorry :)  There's no really good
>> way I can
>> > > > think of to detect an already running PPP instance since the
>> pieces just
>> > > > aren't there to do it well.  Hence the work to make PPP more 
>> > > > integrated...
>> > > >
>> > > > Dan
>> > > >
>> > > >
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