Re: Suggestion: The option to open a folder in a New Tab instead of a New Window.

[Steve <s tousignant gmail com>]

Hi Mark,

I've read all your discussion with Xavier and Alexander. I think you
should give a try to the spatial mode, it may be ackward at first but
it really work great when you need about 5 to 10 folder open at the
same time. I usually get a desktop alone for this operation. And there
some nifty menu for closing a bunch of parent directory that are not
needed.

Just as a note the GConf key is :
/app/nautilus/preferences/always_use_browser

Just disable this and try to see if it's fit your need. Not for just
an hours but a couple of days. You may be surprise.

2007/8/30, Mark Thiele <markthiele gmail com>:
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>  Alexander Larsson wrote:
>  On Thu, 2007-08-30 at 21:00 +1000, Mark Thiele wrote:
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>  There is nothing wrong in not being everything to everyone.
>
>  True, but you don't have to be a power user to want to have access
> multiple files in multiple directories all at once.
>
>  You can do that fine already. Just use multiple windows.
>
>
>  Multiple windows is the primary problem.
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>
>  There is a cost that all users have to bear when you add complex
> features to the UI, so for each feature its a tradeoff you have to make
> between how it affects the majority of users and how much it gains the
> people who use the feature.
>
>
>  I would suggest that most users would not be calling for tabs, as they
> have not had the opportunity to use them before in a file browser. There
> is nothing to stop it being a preference option. I would also suggest
> that it may become quite popular if it were offered in an obvious way. A
> quick search of the web will discover many calls for tabs in nautilus.
>
>  Web searches are not a good way do decide user interface questions. Only
> the vocal are visible in such a search. They may easily be a minority,
> plus you don't see the people who already like the current behaviour.
>
>
>  Web searches may have their weaknesses, as with any quick survey, but it
> can perhaps give a small indication of user direction.
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>
>
>  Of course, nobody has done the work of actually implementing tabs and
> designing the user interaction model. So perhaps its possible to do it
> such that it doesn't affect the non-tab-user much and doesn't cause too
> much strain on the rest of the codebase. If that is the case, and the
> patch is clean it might be accepted. But I am not gonna spend time on it
> personally.
>
>
>  I'd have a look at it, within the time I have available, but do not know
> where to start. Any pointers?
>
>  Not really. Start with reading the stuff in the docs dir in the source
> tree. Its slightly outdated, but a good start.
>
>  "If you want to look into it that's fine and if it works we may implement
> it - not. We're not going to waste our time helping you do something that
> does not suit our personal tastes."
>
>
>
>  If you do have a large number of text based files open however, won't
> you want a file browser with the ability to stand alongside? I've put
> pcmanfm launchers on my desktop for this purpose, but still feel that I
> shouldn't have to go to the bother.
>
>  In general you don't have as many directories as you have files though.
>
>  Very true, but why do you need as many windows as you have directories?
>
>  Ok. I get it. The Nautilus team, regardless of what anyone else may ask for
> or like, is not going to implement anything that they themselves do not
> think is in "the best interests" of the lowest common denominator of user or
> that does not fit their personal taste.
>
>  As for changing my windows manager, why? Metacity is a great wm. No gripes
> at all with it. Unlike other wm's I've tried (fluxbox, enlightenment, fvwm,
> etc.) it works so seamlessly with gnome as to become invisible to the
> general user. Nice, stable, and simple. I'm experimenting with enlightenment
> though, but changing wm's has a distinct trade-off feature wise. Also a
> distinct visual trade-off as most gnome apps seem to utilise gtk+ themes.
>
>  The problem with any kind of workaround in a desktop environment is that
> sooner or later you will find yourself having to workaround your workaround.
> From my limited experience, it's generally a waste of time.
>
>  Trying to do a workaround which leaves Nautilus drawing the files on my
> desktop, but has pcmanfm opening all my folders bar the cd writer folder.
> Would seem to be my best solution. I could get pcmanfm to draw the desktop
> too and ditch nautilus altogether, but I still have to check what features
> I'd lose. Probably not much...
>
>
>  Yours,
>
>  dov
>
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