Re: [Nautilus-list] Nautilus Goals
- From: Adam Zolkover <wadam OCF Berkeley EDU>
- To: Ben Ford <ben kalifornia com>
- Cc: nautilus-list lists eazel com
- Subject: Re: [Nautilus-list] Nautilus Goals
- Date: 27 Jun 2001 15:28:30 -0700
What is flame bait is not the speed issue, it's the HTML issue. It's
obviously going to cause an argument (everybody has their preferences)
and it's not a productive argument (not being about Nautilus). Anyway,
there's no use getting irate over any of it. Why don't we make nice and
move on.
Adam.
PS - by the way, thanks for the speed comparison. I for one found it
very interresting.
On 27 Jun 2001 12:40:49 -0700, Ben Ford wrote:
> Adam Zolkover wrote:
>
> >Who are you and why don't you show a little bit of respect. One of the
> >reasons that I'm on this list is because it's mostly constructive
> >criticism on topic. I like that and I want to participate in it. This
> >is off topic and flame bait. So could you tone it down just a little
> >bit? Thanks a lot.
> >
>
> It is flame bait to say that it is slow? HELLO . . . . It is off
> topic to want to improve it? WTF are you on?
>
> I was requested to give a speed comparison of nautilus and Konqueror. I
> did so, and Konqueror whipped nautilus's ass quite handily. I was then
> told that my numbers didn't matter because the version in development
> was faster. Well, I am terribly sorry, but THE LATEST AVAILABLE VERSION
> is dog slow. What version do you think that 98% of all the nautilus
> users are using? Do you think they update cvs nightly?
>
>
> Here's a recap of the discussion.
>
> me: Nautilus needs to be faster. Konqueror is much faster.
> seth: Please give more information.
> me: (provides a chart of speed comparisons and machine specs)
> Gaute Lindkvist: Well the unreleased 1.0.4 is faster, so those numbers
> are invalid + "I hate HTML rant"
> several other people: off topic html argument.
> me: It is only fair to compare released versions + "I'm sorry, but HTML
> makes tables work"
>
> So where's the flame? What is the harm in reminding developers that
> flashy and pretty might be nice but nobody will use it if it's this
> slow? Where is the disrespect?
>
> Here's some disrespect: Pull your head out of your ass and realize that
> NAUTILUS IS SLOW and won't get faster if nobody cares.
>
> It would be flamebait if I had said that Nautilus reminds me of molasses
> in winter, panders to a dumbass, and has a silly useless interface that
> belongs on a windows or mac machine. It would be flamebait if I said
> that I don't use it, and actively discourage others from using it. It
> would be flamebait if I said that Nautilus discouraged users from having
> an IQ over 2.
>
> That is flamebait. Saying it needs to be faster, and it can be done
> because Konqueror does it is not flamebait.
>
> Why don't you show a little respect for a bug report?
>
> -b
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