Re: Lack of borders around menus, widgets, windows, panels, etc.

[Kai Willadsen <kai willadsen gmail com>]

On 18 July 2015 at 09:33, Grant Edwards <grant b edwards gmail com> wrote:
> On 2015-07-17, Kai Willadsen <kai willadsen gmail com> wrote:
> > On 16 July 2015 at 02:34, Grant Edwards <grant b edwards gmail com> wrote:
> > > After a recent upgrade (probably from 1.x to 3.x) I noticed that there
> > > are now no borders around windows/panels, popup/dropdown menus,
> > > scrollbars, etc.
> > >
> > > For examples, see
> > >
> > >  http://www.panix.com/~grante/foo.png
> > >  http://www.panix.com/~grante/bar.png
> > >
> > > At first I thought I would get used to it, but there are still
> > > situations where I find it visually confusing.
> > >
> > > Is there any way to get those borders back?
> >
> > The lack of borders on the pop-ups (and windows/panels/scrollbars I
> > assume) look like a theme issue to me.
>
> Does that mean they don't look like that for other people?

They certainly don't look like that to me, but I'm also currently
running either an older GTK+ version or a weird newer jhbuild GTK+
version depending. It's possible it's specific to that GTK+ version,
but I'd be surprised.

> > I'm sure we don't touch any
> > styling around that. The upgrade from 1.x to 3.x included going from
> > GTK+ 2 to GTK+ 3, so I'd be looking at that as a likely change.
>
> The odd thing is that none of other GTK apps on my machine look like
> that.  I downloaded the PyGTK demos and ran all of them, and none of
> them look like meld with the borderless white-on-white menus and
> widgets.  I've tried changing themes and meld still looks the same.

PyGTK uses GTK+ 2, so that's not necessarily a good test. If other
apps aren't showing the same behaviour though, I don't know what could
be going on. Are you sure the other apps you're testing with are using
GTK+ 3?

Also, I notice that whatever window manager you're using is causing
the fallback (i.e., non global) application menu, and I definitely
haven't tested with other window managers. The other things you're
saying are borderless (except scrollbars, which in that screenshot
look normal to me) are all top-level windows, so I'd be suspicious of
some interaction there.

cheers,
Kai