Re: New website and ftp server

["Andrew V. Samoilov" <kai cmail ru>]

Hi, Pavel!
> > What a reason to change location?  I mailed Miguel and as far as I know
> > you must have account at ftp.gnome.org.  Location was changed twice this week,
> > and it is terrible.  Some people don't want download 4.5.55 even from
> > http://www.gnome.org/projects/mc and don't close bugs fixed in 4.5.55
> > at http://bugzilla.gnome.org until  it will be uploaded to ftp://ftp.gnome.org.
>
> I still don't have the account on ftp.gnome.org.  All talks about it had
> no result.  Maybe I missed something, but I don't understand what may be
> required from me to get access.  If the account was created and I missed
> the e-mail (unlikely but possible) I apologize.

Well, I will remail you a letter from Miguel some later.  As far as I remember I sent
it to you privately but you did not answer me.

> Use my public key to send me sensitive information.  It available at
> http://www.red-bean.com/~proski/pubring.gpg.asc

Ok.  But after I will get back home.

> The reasons to change the site were:
>
> 1) I have no access to ftp.gnome.org
>
> 2) Slowliness of ftp.gnome.org (it redirects to a site in Sweden).  I had 
> reports from Eupore that ibiblio.org is faster than ftp.gnome.org, even 
> though the former is in the United States.

I have no problem with ftp.gnome.org from Ukraine but one is German/Sweden message.
One time I even tninked ftp.gnome.org is hacked.

> 3) An e-mail from ibiblio.org asking where is the master FTP site for MC 
> (I had to answer that there was no such thing).
>
> 4) Hardware problems on red-bean.com, where the MC snapshots were
> published.  It was assumed that I only keep my personal data there, and
> placing snapshots on a system with a 94% full non-upgradeable (ancient
> SCSI) hard drive wasn't nice towards other people who wanted to put their
> personal pages there.
>
> 5) The GNOME ftp is structured in a way that is not convenient for MC
> users.  /pub/gnome contains directories stable, testing and unstable.  
> Whether MC will be spread across those directories or put into "stable"  
> only, there will be confused users who cannot find what they want.
>
> I have no problems with the GNOME team in general.  I have access to the
> WWW pages.  Hosting of the CVS repository is very important for the MC
> project, especially because GNOME has many translators who automatically
> have access to the MC translations.
>
> The problem is specifically with ftp.gnome.org
>
> > So this site may be used as mirror but primary sites must be *.gnome.org.
>
> I would consider it if at least some of the above problems are solved.
>
> By the way, could you please explain what was "terrible" and why do you 
> think that the location was changed twice?  I would like to be aware of 
> possible problems.

Firstly last release had moved to http://www.gnome.org/projects/mc,
and now it is going to ibiblio.org.  Some people are waiting for "stabilization"
in this question.  And some days ago I sow a book in Moscow with hardcoded
mc's source location.

> The problem with people still "not aknowledging" 4.5.55 is indeed a
> serious problem.  Actually, mc-4.5.55.tar.gz is already on ftp.gnome.org
> but the LATEST link is pointing to mc-4.5.54.tar.gz.  Whether
> ftp.gnome.org is the primary location or a mirror, it should be fixed.

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Regards,
Andrew.