Re: Campaign Proposal



On Tue, 2010-02-23 at 08:51 -0700, Stormy Peters wrote:
> So I really don't think that naming releases after endangered species
> will make us look like an endangered species. And I think being
> associated with cute animals is almost always a good thing. 

 Thanks for the support, but I don't believe we should continue this.
Brian's concerns are valid. We might become an endangered species. Like
most Portuguese of my age, I've served in the military (Air Force
Police), my former unit was RESCOM (Rescue & Combat), we were trained in
incursion and extraction of personnel behind enemy lines. Our badge was
an Iberian Lynx over a dagger, this was how I knew the Iberian Lynx.
That unit had been disbanded in 2004. So, it's a fine example of Brian's
statement, it ended up  by disappearing, and he is right also as we
might be handing free ammunition to all the GNOME haters outside.

 Sort out a theme that doesn't offend no one, I'm willing to place work
on such campaign.

> But I do like the idea of picking a humanitarian cause more related to
> us. Is there something in the developing world or technology related
> that we can link to? Could we pick animals in areas we'd like to help?
> 
> Stormy
> 
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 4:34 AM, Brian Cameron <Brian Cameron sun com>
> wrote:
>         
>         Nelson:
>         
>         I also agree that a humanitarian theme is a something that
>         appeals to
>         me.  However, picking the names of endangered species may not
>         be the
>         message that we want to communicate.  This may create the
>         undesirable
>         association that GNOME itself is an "endangered species".
>          This could
>         create bad press and ammo for critics.  It would be damaging
>         to have
>         people start making jokes about GNOME 3.0 being the "Dodo
>         Release", for
>         example.
>         
>         I would prefer to associate GNOME with a humanitarian cause
>         that
>         also communicates growth rather than being dangerously close
>         to
>         extinction.  For example, why not name GNOME after a species
>         that
>         has recovered from being extinct, or with something like solar
>         energy.  This communicates a more upbeat and positive message
>         about
>         the brand, avoids such negative associations, and still
>         promotes
>         humanitarian issues.
>         
>         Brian
>         
>         
>         
>         
>         
>                         I appreciate that it's a nice idea to adopt
>                         humanitarian causes as a way
>                         of having some of the good feelings people
>                         have for them to rub off on us.
>                         
>                         But I really don't like the whole endangered
>                         species angle. Let me
>                         explain why:
>                         
>                         I have some more suggestions for names: "Lucid
>                         Lynx", "Intrepid Ibex",
>                         "Jaunty Jackalope", "Hardy Heron"...
>                         
>                         I don't mean to put a kybosh on the idea
>                         altogether, but the animal name
>                         thing isn't really original, given Ubuntu.
>                 
>                  I couldn't care less. Point me some originality in
>                 Ubuntu, and I can
>                 consider my position.
>                 
>                 
>                         
>                         And the iLynx suggestion in the original
>                         proposal seems a but Applish,
>                         no? In addition to the "iSomething"
>                         convention, Apple has used Cheetah,
>                         Puma, Jaguar, Panther, Tiger, Leopard and Snow
>                         Leopard as OS X release
>                         codenames, so choosing a big cat doesn't seem
>                         like a good idea.
>                 
>                 I've supplied alternatives. I've choosen the Iberian
>                 Lynx as a form to
>                 translate my thoughts because he lives in Portugal and
>                 Spain and he is
>                 my neighbor. Didn't felt like loosing time searching
>                 for other species.
>                 I did flavoured a national cause (Portugal and Spain),
>                 because I am
>                 Portuguese.
>                 
>                         
>                         One other negative remark - do we really want
>                         to have GNOME associated
>                         with extinct or almost extinct animals? While
>                         the Siberian Tiger, the
>                         Iberian Lynx, the Javan Rhino and the Mountain
>                         Gorilla make for nice
>                         icons, there are almost none left, and their
>                         population is in decline.
>                         Is that the association we want people to make
>                         when they think of GNOME?
>                         
>                         Anyway - sorry to be the party pooper.
>                 
>                  Well, it's better than associating it with Genghis
>                 Kahn (aka Temujin)
>                 the Impaler. Do I see some sense here?
>                 
>                  And from another point of view: http://www.unep.ch/
>                  It is a subject being supported by the United
>                 Nations. And even
>                 further: http://www.unep.org/awards/>>  Do we have a
>                 GNOME Logo there?
>                  If such thing happened, what were the benefits GNOME
>                 would take from
>                 it?
>                 
>                  My 2 cents,
>                 
>                  PS: I've offered alternatives, such as the Spider
>                 Monkeys and the Red
>                 Wolfs during this thread. Spider Monkeys means
>                 fighting against the
>                 de-florestation of the Amazonian Rain Forest, and Red
>                 Wolfs is a US
>                 national cause. In case we aint going for the cats.
>                 
>                  nelson
>                 
>                 
>                         
>                         Cheers,
>                         Dave.
>                         
>                 
>         
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