Re: Gtkmm Windows Runtime Installer - Silent Option

[Murray Cumming <murrayc murrayc com>]

On Sat, 2008-10-11 at 03:22 -1000, John Hobbs wrote:
> > If you want to call the gtkmm installer from an application installer, I
> > think that's not an intended use of the gtkmm installer. The wiki page
> > recommends that you just ship the files because it's a simple install.
> 
> I am calling it from another application installer, and I think for a
> good reason.  A silent install can check and abort or update if it is
> already installed, where as if I distribute the files with my package
> I can end up with multiple copies of the same libraries in different
> spots all over the machine, not something I generally try to do too
> much.  It's just my approach, but it makes sense to me.

But the DLLs should be installed next to your application, so you can
only have multiple copies of the DLLs if you have multiple copies of
your application, or if you want them because you have (single installs
of) multiple applications.

> > And why do we need to set PATH? And why would we not want to set it?
> 
> The non-silent installer has the default option to add the libs to the
> PATH, but it doesn't do that on a silent install.  If you are
> installing libs for the system in a general way, adding to the PATH
> would be a nice way to let the system know where they are, and the
> default can be not to set it, but a switch would be nice.
> 
> I would be more than happy to change the NSIS script myself and submit
> a patch.  I don't see why this is an issue, it's simply adding a
> feature that is easy and causes no harm at all, except maybe a few
> more lines in SVN.

Yet it seems to be encouraging you to do the opposite of what we advise
you to do - put the DLLs next to your application. That's harm.

>   I'm just asking that if I do update it, would
> Armin mind updating the packages so that I don't have to compile Gtkmm
> myself.
> 
> [1] http://unattended.sourceforge.net/
> 
> - John Hobbs
> 
> john velvetcache org
> 
> On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 1:40 AM, Murray Cumming <murrayc murrayc com> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 2008-10-10 at 11:43 -1000, John Hobbs wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I am looking to deploy the Windows runtime installer in silent mode,
> > > but it doesn't set the PATH when you do that.
> >
> > Why do you need this? What is the purpose of the "silent" install? You
> > mentioned it on the wiki page but didn't say why anybody would want to
> > use it.
> >
> > If you want to call the gtkmm installer from an application installer, I
> > think that's not an intended use of the gtkmm installer. The wiki page
> > recommends that you just ship the files because it's a simple install.
> >
> > And why do we need to set PATH? And why would we not want to set it?
> >
> > > I am running:
> > >
> > > gtkmm-win32-runtime-2.14.1-2.exe /S /D=C:\Program Files\gtkmm
> > >
> > > Is there a flag I can use to make it set the env. variables?
> > >
> > > Here is a ref. for adding a flag maybe:
> > > http://nsis.sourceforge.net/Docs/Chapter4.html#4.12
> > >
> > > Also, when you run it silent it seems to install as "current user
> > > only", an option would be nice.
> > >
> > > Lastly, if you install silent, when you uninstall it won't clean up
> > > the start menu at all.
> > >
> > > I found no problems when running a silent uninstall, aside from the
> > > conditional issue above, which occurs in a non-silent uninstall as
> > > well.
> > >
> > > I went ahead and stuck those notes on the wiki, is that the right
> > > place to deal with this? Since it's a build I don't really see it as a
> > > "bug" persay.
> >
> > >
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> >
> >
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