Re: Gtkmm Windows Runtime Installer - Silent Option

["John Hobbs" <john velvetcache org>]

> Why do you need this? What is the purpose of the "silent" install? You
> mentioned it on the wiki page but didn't say why anybody would want to
> use it.

A silent, non-interactive install is good for deploying from another
installer, remotely deploying to a whole bunch of machines at once, or
packing into an OS install routine using something like Unattended
[1].

> If you want to call the gtkmm installer from an application installer, I
> think that's not an intended use of the gtkmm installer. The wiki page
> recommends that you just ship the files because it's a simple install.

I am calling it from another application installer, and I think for a
good reason.  A silent install can check and abort or update if it is
already installed, where as if I distribute the files with my package
I can end up with multiple copies of the same libraries in different
spots all over the machine, not something I generally try to do too
much.  It's just my approach, but it makes sense to me.

> And why do we need to set PATH? And why would we not want to set it?

The non-silent installer has the default option to add the libs to the
PATH, but it doesn't do that on a silent install.  If you are
installing libs for the system in a general way, adding to the PATH
would be a nice way to let the system know where they are, and the
default can be not to set it, but a switch would be nice.

I would be more than happy to change the NSIS script myself and submit
a patch.  I don't see why this is an issue, it's simply adding a
feature that is easy and causes no harm at all, except maybe a few
more lines in SVN.  I'm just asking that if I do update it, would
Armin mind updating the packages so that I don't have to compile Gtkmm
myself.

[1] http://unattended.sourceforge.net/

- John Hobbs

john velvetcache org

On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 1:40 AM, Murray Cumming <murrayc murrayc com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2008-10-10 at 11:43 -1000, John Hobbs wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am looking to deploy the Windows runtime installer in silent mode,
> > but it doesn't set the PATH when you do that.
>
> Why do you need this? What is the purpose of the "silent" install? You
> mentioned it on the wiki page but didn't say why anybody would want to
> use it.
>
> If you want to call the gtkmm installer from an application installer, I
> think that's not an intended use of the gtkmm installer. The wiki page
> recommends that you just ship the files because it's a simple install.
>
> And why do we need to set PATH? And why would we not want to set it?
>
> > I am running:
> >
> > gtkmm-win32-runtime-2.14.1-2.exe /S /D=C:\Program Files\gtkmm
> >
> > Is there a flag I can use to make it set the env. variables?
> >
> > Here is a ref. for adding a flag maybe:
> > http://nsis.sourceforge.net/Docs/Chapter4.html#4.12
> >
> > Also, when you run it silent it seems to install as "current user
> > only", an option would be nice.
> >
> > Lastly, if you install silent, when you uninstall it won't clean up
> > the start menu at all.
> >
> > I found no problems when running a silent uninstall, aside from the
> > conditional issue above, which occurs in a non-silent uninstall as
> > well.
> >
> > I went ahead and stuck those notes on the wiki, is that the right
> > place to deal with this? Since it's a build I don't really see it as a
> > "bug" persay.
>
> >
> --
> Murray Cumming
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