Re: GTK help for newbie noob

[NewbieNoob <optomatic rogers com>]

Thanks Adam

That was extremely helpful and encouraging. I printed your response, I will
keep it with my notes. Thanks for looking after this Newbie noob-Patrick



Adam Bloom-3 wrote:
> 
> Hey,
> 
> This is the opinion of a fellow newb, but I think it may help.
> 
> Looking at GTK as it if were C can be very confusing, because GTK
> doesn't make much sense from a pure-C perspective. GTK is a pseudo-OO
> language, so thinking of the syntax as a very mangled form of Python
> or C++ may help.
> 
> So a call such as (from the GTK tutorial:
> http://www.gtk.org/tutorial/c39.html)
> 
> window = gtk_window_new (GTK_WINDOW_TOPLEVEL);
> 
> Can be thought of as an object creator. A signal:
> 
> g_signal_connect (G_OBJECT (window), "delete_event",
> 		      G_CALLBACK (delete_event), NULL);
> 		
> Is sort of like a dynamic method creator. Give the object (window) a
> new method that activates on a "delete_event" and calls the function
> delete_event.
> 
> You said:
> 
>> I am trying to work my way through the pygtk tutorial but I feel like I
>> am
>> just memorizing bit and pieces of information without understand the
>> underlying rules.
> 
> Honestly, that's fine. As you memorize bits and pieces, the underlying
> rules will start to come into focus. You'll start to see patterns, and
> once you know a few patterns you'll be able to look at something
> unfamiliar and say, "We'll, I know what this bit means, and this looks
> like that other thing." Anything you still don't recognize is just an
> API document away.
> 
> That's my two cents.
> 
> -Adam
> 
>> Thanks for your time Mariano.
>>
>> I am not sure if I am using the correct terminology here. By syntax I
>> mean
>> the grammar of the language. Since GTK is written in C I tried reading
>> through some tutorials on C syntax to get an understanding of how the
>> language is laid out. I was not really able to see the correlation
>> between
>> the C syntax and GTK's.
>>
>> I am trying to work my way through the pygtk tutorial but I feel like I
>> am
>> just memorizing bit and pieces of information without understand the
>> underlying rules.
>>
>> The problem here may be that I am a dumbass. I will try to continue
>> studying.
>>
>> Thanks again-Patrick
>>
>>
>>
>> Mariano Suárez-Alvarez-2 wrote:
>> >
>> > On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 09:55 -0800, NewbieNoob wrote:
>> >> Hi There
>> >>
>> >> I am just learning GTK.
>> >>
>> >> I don't quite get the basic "building blocks" of GTK.
>> >>
>> >> Is there a reference or tutorial out there that focuses on the syntax
>> in
>> >> a
>> >> systematic way?
>> >
>> > I don0t really understand what you mean by syntax here, but...
>> >
>> > There is a tutorial oriented to C at <http://www.gtk.org/tutorial/> and
>> > another one, oriented towards python, at
>> > <http://www.pygtk.org/pygtk2tutorial/index.html>.
>> >
>> > (If you google for "gtk tutorial" you get these two links, and the ones
>> > for Perl, Ruby, and Ocaml among tyhe first few results. Remember:
>> Google
>> > is your friend)
>> >
>> > -- m
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Mariano Suárez-Alvarez
>> > http://www.gnome.org/~mariano
>> >
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