Re: [gtk-list] VDK & Gtk--, was: yet another gtk+ C++ wrapper

On Thu, 10 Sep 1998, Christof Petig wrote:
>Hi you,
>I'd like to comment on this topic.
>I had a first look at VDK. It has many examples, the documentation is brief
>(and looks ugly within netscape) but there. The examples look too colourful for
>Gtk-Apps (both pro and con).

wich version did you look ? 0.1 was very incomplete, version 0.2 is much more
near the first alpha (0.3 that will be released next).
Admittely html docs are bad (now Ionut Borcoman is rewriting the tutorial into a
more fashioned way) but there is also a 60 pages ps version.

>The signal number #defines look a bit odd to me (how can anyone in his sane
> mind do this within an OO environment ...) ;-)

if you mean macro expansion of signal/event connection 
this is an interesting
tech discussion,  it took me about 3 days to decide between macros expansion
and a plain connecting call like gtk-- does. After some trials I finally decided
to macros mainly because is an easy way to implement fast look-up static binding
template table and response handler. Better choices could be possible, but this
one is'nt so "odd" or rather well known on event-driving programming.

>I'll take a closer look once VDK is evolving.
>Besides that gtk-- needs some fresh air (doku and example programs are really
>needed). How many people are involved in gtk--'s development? Four, Five? Count
>me in. Are there any apps? I would happily provide some real (commercial) world
>examples (GPL) now, but they rely on Adabas D as a backend. Take me serious!

do you know how many are involved in VDK devel ?

>Conclusion: If this so called 'competitor' stirs up the sleep of gtk--, the

i would stress than VDK is'nt a competitor of gtk--, let's think an
'additional', not necessarly the two libraries 'negate' themselves.
VDK introduces some 'new' concepts like properties and property browser.

 >But I would call VDK an competitor for wxWindows/Gtk (which I
don't know) or
 >V/Gtk (announced, but not realized?).

agreed (even if i do not know wxWindows/Gtk, not yet released i guess)

>Christof (maintainer of glade--)
>PS: Any volunteers for glade->VDK? I offer my help.
if only it were true !

Mario Motta
AI Research Group - Rimini

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