Re: Removal of icons in buttons/menus


On 9 October 2013 22:45, Andrew W. Nosenko <andrew w nosenko gmail com> wrote:
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:55 PM, Bastien Nocera <hadess hadess net> wrote:
On Wed, 2013-10-09 at 22:45 +0200, Michael Natterer wrote:
On 10/09/2013 10:40 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote:
On Wed, 2013-10-09 at 22:14 +0200, Olivier Brunel wrote:

Oh please, not this silly "GNOME Toolkit" stuff again. GIMP runs on
windows and osx, so do many other applications. So please...

personally, I don't find this in any way "silly".

They're GTK+ apps running on Windows and OS X, not Windows apps, or OSX

Bastien, excuse me, but Michael's reference to The GIMP was a hint
that GTK (with or without '+' -- no matter), stands for The GIMP
Toolkit.  GIMP, not GNOME.

funny story: we already tried to change GTK to expand to "GNOME Tool
Kit" years ago; it got reverted pending "discussion", then we dropped
the ball in the discussion, and we never actually formalised the

to be fair, if we use code size as a metric, GNOME as a whole is a
much bigger user of GTK than Gimp. but who cares about the acronym:
GTK does not expand to anything, these days. it's like GNOME: if we
want it to mean GNU Network Object Model Environment then it's clearly
wrong - except for the GNU part.

people from GNOME are driving the toolkit from the community side,
which is the only one that really matters. occasionally, we get
contributions from other people that are not using GNOME, or that are
commercially interested in keeping GTK working on specific platforms.
when those contributions dry up we have had no qualms in removing code
- e.g. DirectFB. if people want to change direction of the project,
they need to step up and work *with* GNOME, until the GNOME
contributors are a minority; after that point, they will be allowed to
move the toolkit in the direction they want, without caring about

that's how it works.



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