Re: About GTK+ 3.0 and deprecated things

[Hans Breuer <hans breuer org>]

Am 18.07.2008 15:32, Owen Taylor schrieb:
> On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 13:15 +0200, Colin Leroy wrote:
[...]
> > > The 1.x -> 2.0 change was painful for everyone who had an app that  
> > > needed porting, however I find it pretty irrelevant in comparison to  
> > > 2.x -> 3.0.
> > Well, if no libgtk-compat is planned, it will be about as painful
> > for users of the deprecated and removed widgets/functions.
>
> Possibly the constructive question here is:
>
>  What sort of messaging would have convinced you to have moved
>  away from the deprecated widgets?
For me the answer is simple (being application developer for Dia and 
longtime gtk+/win32 contributor): porting Dia to gtk+-2.0 and keeping 
gtk+-2.0 useable for win32 just did not leave enough spare time to keep 
pace with all the deprecations ;)

> I don't see the virtue of a gtk1-compat library... it's just shuffling
> non-maintainership around forever. 
My attempt to a constructive answer is: just let the people who need the 
compatibility keep gtk-2.x alive within the GNOME infrastructure.

For this it would be very helpful to have a clean release of gtk+-2.x 
including all the GSEAL stuff but also compatibiity to continue iterative 
porting before gtk+-3.0 gets released, which would break compatibility.

For me the hardest part in the transition from 1.2 to 2.0 was the lack of 
gtk+-1.4 which would have included all the win32 porting done on 1.3 
without the API breakages.

> I'd suggest people can just cut,
> paste, and rename the things into their own code if they are so
> attached to the code.
IMO having this deprecated stuff copied and pasted into a lot of 
applications would be a distributed maintenance nightmare.

Regards,
	Hans

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