Re: [GnomeMeeting-devel-list] OSS plugin not there, ALSA confused

[Pierre-Philippe Coupard <pcoupard easyconnect fr>]

Hi Kilian,

Kilian Krause wrote:
> > I know what I'm doing. That doesn't mean I want to spend hours trying to figure 
> > out a problem unrelated to the changes I'm doing in GM. Besides, I figured 
> > Damien might want to know about the ALSA problem.
>
> btw. there's a learning curve ;)

Well quite, but what's a mailing list for if it's not to share one another's 
experience and make the learning curve less steep for the rest of us? Responding 
to a question by "if you're a normal user, stick to the mainstream packages and 
go post on the regular list, otherwise take the day off and strace the code by 
yourself" isn't my idea of mutual help.

> if it takes that long, you should give
> yourself some time to learn to find sources more quickly.. *g*
> usually it's "what doesn't show up within the first 10-15min you won't
> find until 2-3h" once you're experienced with gdb and strace (and
> reading logs of course).. And 10-15min is somewhat the effort you are
> willing to "invest" into enhancing OpenSource when installing CVS
> packages. I guess that's not too much for free software, is it?

That's not the issue : everybody wants to give time to many projects, but at 
some point there has to be some prioritization. I'm involved in many other free 
software projects, mine or others, and I must say I don't necessarily have the 
time or desire to go deeper into Gnomemeeting. In fact, messing with 
Gnomemeeting ranks quite low on my list of things to do, not because the project 
isn't nice, but because I just have other things to do, and my main areas of 
interest are elsewhere.

So yes, I'm willing to give GM two or three hours to contribute a small code 
snippet that I find helpful to me, but I'm not really willing to do much more 
than this. In particular, I'm not willing to trace libpt to find out by myself 
that Julien has disabled loadable plugins to get better traces. I might have 
done if I had a stronger interest in the project's development, but I don't. If 
you suggest I learn all there is to know about this very fine project just to 
contribute a 100 line patch, then I most certainly won't.

> Thanks for your report still. Let's hope we can try to "fix" this issue
> soon, even though it doesn't apply to $MANY users..

The issue is fixed for me now, since I've been told where to look. Indeed, I'm 
sure there aren't many people who have the same problem :-)

But back on topic. If I may make a suggestion : it would be nice to be able to 
get the -dev versions of the libpt-*-1.6.3 and openh323-1.13.2 packages (.deb or 
.rpm) from the "download" link at www.gnomemeeting.org. I looked on the site and 
didn't find them, nor did I find them through google.