Re: www.gnome.org redesign status

[Behdad Esfahbod <behdad behdad org>]

On 04/21/2009 03:45 PM, David Bain wrote:
> Is there anything wrong with collecting donations in order to sponsor a
> single person or organization to implement the site. The Drupal guys
> have had to raise funds in order to sponsor redesign their own site!
> http://drupal.org/node/356002 (their target is $15,000).

1) No one person can do this job,

2) Sponsoring someone to do it is the wrong approach, as it will start falling 
apart again as soon as the contract is over,

3) $15,000 can buy a contractor's services for a very short period of time. 
Nothing close to what it takes to get the job done.  What the Drupal guys are 
doing is to raise funds to sponsor sprints.  That is, travel reimbursements. 
No one gets paid to work on it.

We are certainly interested in doing website hackfests.  But in the past, 
there were not enough people (read: 3) to fly to a hackfest to begin with.


> I don't know if I speak for everyone, but I'm willing and have been
> willing to help out but it has come down to whether I can afford the time.

See above.

behdad



> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Behdad Esfahbod <behdad behdad org
> <mailto:behdad behdad org>> wrote:
>
>     On 04/21/2009 03:18 PM, Frederic Peters wrote:
>
>         Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
>
>                 I found that to be a strange response to me saying (in
>                 that same email)
>                 that we should not block on choosing _any_ CMS. We don't
>                 need a CMS to
>                 get the new structure and content online. A suitable CMS
>                 would be
>                 _nice_, but it's not a blocker. Lack of committed web
>                 people is the
>                 blocker.
>
>             Any reason not simply go with MediaWiki?  We already know
>             that the wiki
>             is where everything happens.  Why not use it for everything?
>
>
>              >From my point of view I18n was deemed important (and a big
>             gain
>
>         over the current scheme, and I agree wholeheartedly with that)
>         and the i18n story of wiki sites is usually quite poor.
>
>
>     I don't think we'll ever get fully translated pages other than maybe
>     the front page.  And only if the front page is static.  See GNU's...
>
>     What's the point, really?  Let each language team have their own
>     subspace under gnome.org <http://gnome.org> and welcome their own
>     users and have their own content.  Like how wikipedia works.
>
>
>         But then I don't care much about chosen technology, and I agree with
>         Murray, the problem is lack of web people (or lack of
>         familiarity with
>         web technologies by current GNOME hackers[1]). Whatever the
>         technology
>         is, we first need people commited to achieve something.
>
>
>     We don't have web people, and we won't get any by waiting another
>     ten years. Lets just use our hackers to populate the site.  Or at
>     least make it easier for our ED to edit the site.  Wikis solve both.
>
>     Cheers,
>     behdad
>
>
>         Cheers,
>                  Frederic
>
>         [1] but this is, slowly, changing.
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