Re: Replacing Squishdot

[Joshua Eichorn <jeichorn JoshuaEichorn com>]

I would have to agree with Christian there is no point in chanding 
gnotices as long as we have someone who is
willing to maintain and make the needed changes, it only needs to be 
replaced (changed to php) if there are no
zope developers in the group who are willing to work on it.

Also no i still don't have the accounts i need to setup the search 
engine even after mailing the root mailing list 3 or 4 times
I'm not sure what the deal is but school just started for me and i have 
better things to do then send emails of into a black hole.

If someone with an account on the webserver wants to help me setup the 
search engine we can meet on irc and i can walk you
through it.  Setting up ht://Dig is pretty simple.  If anyone wants to 
see what a search page could look it my example is at
http://joshuaeichorn.com/search/

-josh
Christian Schaller wrote:

> On 27 Aug 2001 07:20:23 -0500, Joakim Ziegler wrote:
>
> > On 25 Aug 2001 12:50:46 -0700, Michael R. Bernstein wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, 2001-08-25 at 11:56, Christian Schaller wrote:
> > >
> > > > As for flames I don't belive I have flamed either you or anyone about
> > > > the technical infrastructure choices of gnome.org. 
> > > No, not you. In fact, all those people who posted 'I don't know Zope, so
> > > let's just use PHP because it's better and more people know it' (and
> > > probably whoever sent me anonymous flames in private), don't seem to be
> > > on the list anymore.
> > Let me just point out that this isn't really a flame, this is a valid
> > stance. If you know one language/system and you don't know another, and
> > this is the case for the vast majority of the people who will most
> > likely be maintaining the system, then it's understandable that those
> > people might want to go with something they know.
> >
> > Likewise, if PHP will be used for the rest of the new web site (which,
> > last I checked, there was consensus for), then it seems fairly sane to
> > me to try to stick to one language all over.
> Well I think we should be practical about this and the fact is that even
> if there has been a lot of discussion the new PHP based website is just
> screenshots for now as far as I can see. So I would think that
> discussing changing the brand of the tires is not very fruitfull when
> the engine is still missing.
>
> As for Gnotices, well if Michael is willing to maintain and fix the
> current setup I think we should keep it, if Michael can fix the
> moderation setup and get Gnotices integrated with the new Trove software
> map when Steve has that ready and over time add the other features I
> asked for then I think we have no reason to change to another
> technology. One of the most basic rules I learned working with computer
> systems the last years is the one that if it works don't fix it.
> Gnotices functions today as a fairly separate part of the website so
> keeping with Squishdot(Swishdot) there would not really not impact the
> rest of the site much.
>
> Tomas is still willing to set up a new PHP based system for us however,
> but personally I would think that if Tomas tried getting the new site
> setup working for instance that that would be a much better way to
> spend our resources. (Would you be willing to try and tackle this if set
> up with the right accounts and accesses?)
>
> And that gets us back to the a core problem here, the extreme difficulty
> of getting these people the accounts they need in order to successfully
> complete their tasks. AFAIK Steve Fox has managed to get the right
> accounts set up for himself, but he is also the only one. So if you have
> a chance to get people the accounts they need Joakim, then that would be
> great. I know this is a issue of trust, but I would think anyone who has
> been willing to spend the last 6 months on this list with very little
> progress being made and still be interested is surely not out to
> sabotage us.
>
> For instance Joshua do you have the accesses you need to set up the new
> search system?
>
> Christian