On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 13:05 +0200, Clemens wrote: > >> I disagree, core should remain thin so people can easily go in whatever > >> direction they want. Verses the old first-I-go-remove-all-this-crap. > > How much "thicker" does the core get by having a restart menu item in the > > status menu? This is an argument against the concept with an instance. Having a restart menu item is considerably different than many of the things people propose should 'be included'. I use, and cannot [on a existential and metaphysical level] understand why most people do not use the Zeitgeist Journal and Tracker integration. Come on! It is all upside! .... but a lot of [crazy, IMNSHO] people do not. But that this considerably complex feature is not included by default doesn't bother me at all. I just install the extension - then I get work done. And retrofitting GNOME3 [core] with features to make it more like GNOME2 [or windows XP/95] doesn't make sense to me either. GNOME3 is an attempt to make a different, and better, user experience. I don't retrofit my 2011 Prius Hybrid with a reverse foot-pedal because I learned to drive on an 1919 Model-T Ford [which I did, and it is confusing at first - but four wheel anti-lock disc brakes are awesome]. Both vehicles are what they are. > As far is i know, the poweroff/reboot buttons were removed/are hidden > because suspend is a) more efficient (time + powerconsumption) b) many people > only use suspend and never poweroff there macine c) suspend is working an nearly > all devices (most of the time a shutdown my notebook using a terminal ) Yes. This topic has been thrashed to shreds in many forums, including here. There is a hard-core contingent of people who rabidly despise Suspend/Resume (for a variety of reasons); that they have to modify this behavior enrages them. Please let's go into that again. <aside>I'll confess that I am in the I-suspend-resume-camp. I reboot less and less as time goes on. With my last two laptops it has worked perfectly. And now that most applications are network aware [via the fantastic NetworkManager] most of the sharp edges are gone. But doing so still does kill your SSH sessions :)</aside>
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