Re: No minimise/maximise (again)
- From: Brainstormtrooper <brainstormtrooper free fr>
- To: gnome-shell-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: No minimise/maximise (again)
- Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 10:42:13 +0100
Is this something that will eventually find its way back to the control
panel like it was in gnome 2.x?
These things were easy to configure before, and I agree that being able
to easily change these settings is important to help users feel more
comfortable... That said, after a few days of working exclusively in
Gnome 3, I can say I don't miss those buttons anymore... it just looked
strange and took a few hours to get used to...
All in all, the new way of dealing with windows and workspaces is fairly
intuitive and drastically efficient...
On Thu, 2011-03-17 at 09:16 +0800, Allan E. Registos wrote:
> It is worthy to note that only GNOME Shell have this _[] removals by
> default, I can't see it elsewhere in any major OSes. So a "Welcome to
> GNOME Shell < New Features > < Tour Guide >" startup window with a
> simple documentation will help users from other environments. I
> believe this could be also done by distributions or by GNOME Shell doc
> team itself.
> Configuring the dconf just to show it back again is relevant only to
> the maintainers of Linux/*nix distributions, but I think it is of
> little value to _end_ users.
>
> On Tuesday, 15 March, 2011 11:35 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Marshall Neill
> > <ramien43 windstream net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 03/14/2011 10:37 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 09:46 -0500, William Jon
> > McCann wrote:
> > Hey,
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Florian
> > Müllner<fmuellner gnome org> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 14:00 +0000,
> > kaddy080 gmail com wrote:
> > 2) Don't you guys surf the
> > net for porn!!!!????
> > C'monnnn. Do you know
> > how hard it is now to hide a
> > webpage quickly when
> > somebody walks into
> > the room!!!!???? Don't deny
> > it. You guys watch porn
> > too ;)
> > now you ruined everything.
> > haha :)
> > Uhm - so basically you post to a
> > public mailing list that you'd like
> > to
> > keep your porn-browsing habits
> > private?
> > Well at least he or she didn't describe the
> > type of porn.
> >
> > Sounds like a good case for a porn
> > workspace. When someone walks up
> > behind you at work, zip it up and switch
> > workspaces. Another option
> > is to use the keyboard shortcuts if that's
> > where your hands are
> > (doubtful). You may even want to configure
> > a special keybinding if
> > getting caught in the act is a common part
> > of your workflow.
> > Otherwise you can use the overview to switch
> > away. Your porn-space
> > is mostly hidden off the right side of the
> > screen in the overview.
> >
> > But let's try to use work-safe examples here
> > in the future please.
> > Can't resist continuing this one. As we're talking
> > about hiding porn
> > 'webpages' we are apparently in a web browser. If
> > you're trying to keep
> > your porn browsing private you probably want to be
> > doing it in Private
> > Browsing Mode, which - in Firefox, anyway - has a
> > keyboard shortcut:
> > shift-ctrl-P. It's even, very conveniently, a
> > shortcut you can manage
> > with one hand, if you use the right-hand side ctrl
> > and shift keys. That
> > makes it nice and easy to get rid of your porn
> > session with no
> > minimizing required - just whack the keyboard
> > shortcut to quit private
> > browsing mode and you're right back in your
> > convincingly work-related
> > browser session.
> >
> > I'M JUST SAYIN, IS ALL
> >
> > (of course, if you're on a work network, you can
> > rely on the fact that
> > your friendly office BOFH has your outgoing HTTP
> > requests logged. Please
> > refer to said BOFH for the fee schedule for keeping
> > said logs
> > private...)
> > I have been watching this list for some time now and I have
> > come to a conclusion, perhaps a bad one, but one
> > nonetheless, you have taken away functionality. The whole
> > gnome shell thing is woirkspace driven. As I said before,
> > you guys might use workspaces, but from what I have seen in
> > the years and years of dealing with computers, not used all
> > that often. Now if you use workspaces, great, but forcing
> > others to adopt that mentality, not so sure. No minimize,
> > maximize, why? You have just removed functionality and I
> > believe minimize was removed because there isn't any
> > taskbar. Minimize caused the window to basically disappear
> > and you couldn't find it. Well if you pressed the Super
> > key or moused over to the Activities you would find it.
> > More work. Taskbar, there is one, so to speak, but
> > basically a space stealer. Has a calendar, woohoo, and the
> > activities plus system tray. Boy that will cause everyone
> > to drop KDE, XFCE,etc and just stampede over to the new
> > Gnome Shell. Yeah right. Now I know I am gonna get nailed
> > bigtime for this e-mail, but I feel it needed to be said.
> > All I have seen, for the mostpart, is praise. No real
> > criticisms.
> > I always thought the basic premise for an upgrade or new
> > features was productivity. I don't see a lot of that in the
> > new shell. More mouse moving/clicking, etc.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The functionality is not being removed.. it's not just visible. You
> > can still get to it via right click on the title bar or the keyboard
> > shortcut. Why not try it that way instead of just bashing it? If
> > you don't like it you can always set the key in dconf to put it
> > back.
> >
> >
> > The thing about computers is that work models change constantly.
> > How people interact with their computers change.. today a lot of
> > people are using cell phones and the way they interact on that is in
> > fact workspace based. The way they work with tablets is workspace
> > based. I strongly suspect that the smart phone use models is going
> > to affect the UI desktop computing. I see this as getting ahead of
> > the curve. (or perhaps we've always been there.. I've been using
> > workspaces since 1993)
> >
> >
> > Maybe you don't agree with the direction and that's understandable,
> > change isn't always easy to manage especially if you're happy with
> > the status quo. GNOME has always been about "just works" and
> > pushing the desktop out of your consciousness so that you can
> > concentrate on the tasks you're working on effectively.
> > "Distraction free computing" as is described in the
> > http://www.gnome3.org/ website. Perhaps this iteration may not the
> > best for you, but please continue to monitor subsequent iterations
> > and try them out. Keep an open mind is all we ask. Perhaps you'll
> > appreciate some of the changes?
> >
> >
> > sri
> >
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> --
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