Re: No minimise/maximise (again)

[Marshall Neill <ramien43 windstream net>]

On 03/14/2011 10:37 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 09:46 -0500, William Jon McCann wrote:
> > Hey,
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Florian Müllner<fmuellner gnome org>  wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 14:00 +0000, kaddy080 gmail com wrote:
> > > > 2) Don't you guys surf the net for porn!!!!???? C'monnnn. Do you know
> > > > how hard it is now to hide a webpage quickly when somebody walks into
> > > > the room!!!!???? Don't deny it. You guys watch porn too ;)
> > > > now you ruined everything. haha :)
> > > Uhm - so basically you post to a public mailing list that you'd like to
> > > keep your porn-browsing habits private?
> > Well at least he or she didn't describe the type of porn.
> >
> > Sounds like a good case for a porn workspace.  When someone walks up
> > behind you at work, zip it up and switch workspaces.  Another option
> > is to use the keyboard shortcuts if that's where your hands are
> > (doubtful).  You may even want to configure a special keybinding if
> > getting caught in the act is a common part of your workflow.
> > Otherwise you can use the overview to switch away.   Your porn-space
> > is mostly hidden off the right side of the screen in the overview.
> >
> > But let's try to use work-safe examples here in the future please.
> Can't resist continuing this one. As we're talking about hiding porn
> 'webpages' we are apparently in a web browser. If you're trying to keep
> your porn browsing private you probably want to be doing it in Private
> Browsing Mode, which - in Firefox, anyway - has a keyboard shortcut:
> shift-ctrl-P. It's even, very conveniently, a shortcut you can manage
> with one hand, if you use the right-hand side ctrl and shift keys. That
> makes it nice and easy to get rid of your porn session with no
> minimizing required - just whack the keyboard shortcut to quit private
> browsing mode and you're right back in your convincingly work-related
> browser session.
>
> I'M JUST SAYIN, IS ALL
>
> (of course, if you're on a work network, you can rely on the fact that
> your friendly office BOFH has your outgoing HTTP requests logged. Please
> refer to said BOFH for the fee schedule for keeping said logs
> private...)
I have been watching this list for some time now and I have come to a 
conclusion, perhaps a bad one, but one nonetheless, you have taken away 
functionality.  The whole gnome shell thing is woirkspace driven.  As I 
said before, you guys might use workspaces, but from what I have seen in 
the years and years of dealing with computers, not used all that often.  
Now if you use workspaces, great, but forcing others to adopt that 
mentality, not so sure.   No minimize, maximize, why?  You have just 
removed functionality and I believe minimize was removed because there 
isn't any taskbar.  Minimize caused the window to basically disappear 
and you couldn't find it.   Well if you pressed the Super key or moused 
over to the Activities you would find it.  More work.  Taskbar, there is 
one, so to speak, but basically a space stealer.   Has a calendar, 
woohoo, and the activities plus system tray.   Boy that will cause 
everyone to drop KDE, XFCE,etc and just stampede over to the new Gnome 
Shell.  Yeah right.  Now I know I am gonna get nailed bigtime for this 
e-mail, but I feel it needed to be said.  All I have seen, for the 
mostpart, is praise.  No real criticisms.
I always thought the basic premise for an upgrade or new features was 
productivity.  I don't see a lot of that in the new shell.  More mouse 
moving/clicking, etc.