Hi! Please, stick to the GNOME Code of Conduct[1] when writing posts to GNOME mailing lists. Second, it is a matter of being polite to use correct language and punctuation when writing stuff that others are supposed to read. We are not a club of script kiddies... Regards, Johannes [1] http://live.gnome.org/CodeOfConduct Am Donnerstag, den 20.05.2010, 16:10 +0000 schrieb kaddy080 gmail com: > quote > Please, rewrite this e-mail using correct punctuation, full sentences > > starting with a capital and ending with one dot, not hundreds. I > don't > > even have the courage to read your message as-is. Thanks. > > > This is not language school... Nor a correct punctuation > contest....Don't tell me how I should write my emails... > I assume you can read and understand english so just deal with it > > As for your comments about us complaining about the current useability > of gnome-shell.. I consider it > constructive criticism... coming from the perspective of an everyday > user...... if Gnome devs will not listen to the average user.... > then what? I guess gnome goes down the tube.............. dot dot dot > dot dot................... > > I have no programming experience as alot of us do not..... But I can > surely tell you if something sucks from the perspective of an everyday > user needing to get his job done quickly and efficiently.... and to be > frank... the current statuse of gnome-shell just plain sucks... > nothing to be offended about... its the truth, and something needs to > be done to fix the gaps.... Mostly the responsibility of the devs > working on gnome-shell after listening > to feedback from the users and considering contributions that make > things easier.... like I said... I am not a programmer, but I have > sent design submissions that are more well organised > "design/usability" wise then the current state of gnome-shell.... > listen to the users > > kaddy > On , Tim Ryan <tryan linux com> wrote: > > I work with a group of IT folks and most of us are using Gnome on > > > > Ubuntu as out main desktop. None of the others have been following > > > > gnome-shell development or this list. I did a bit a research among > our > > > > small group, only seven people, to see how IT people use their > > > > desktop, and gnome in particular. I mainly asked them about the > window > > > > switcher on the panel, and asked how they were using it. > > > > > > > > I personally don't like the current version of gnome-shell, since it > > > > takes away too much functionality, and I don't see any way to use > the > > > > window switcher the way most of us use it. The window switcher > applet > > > > does not only provide a way of switching between running > applications, > > > > it also give you a instant view of the status of all the running > > > > applications. You don't have to stop what you are doing, they are > all > > > > there at a quick glance, all the time. I constantly have multiple > > > > windows up, and a quick glance at the panel lets me know what I > need. > > > > Are there unread emails? Has compilation finished? video finally > > > > loaded? To find this out with the shell, I need to stop what I'm > doing > > > > and go to the overlay, a definite distraction. > > > > > > > > I thought maybe I was unusual for using it this way, but three out > of > > > > the seven use it this way. I know this isn't much of a sample, but > if > > > > my little group wants this functionality I'm sure there are many > more > > > > out there that feel the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tim Ryan > > > > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. > > > > See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Milan Bouchet-Valat > nalimilan club fr> wrote: > > > > > Le jeudi 20 mai 2010 à 14:33 +0000, kaddy080 gmail com a écrit : > > > > >> I am very glad that you are satisfied with the current "non > finished" > > > > >> version of gnomeshell and how it handles window management.. > > > > >> unfortunately there are alot of other people out here who find > the > > > > >> current handling of windows bothersome, and not > straightforward.... > > > > >> its a hell of alot easier and > > > > >> quicker to click a minimised application to bring it back up > rather > > > > >> than zooming out and zooming in on the app, or alt tabbing... > while > > > > >> this may satisfy YOU.... it doesn't satisfy > > > > >> alot of other users.... hence an additional modification to > > > > >> gnome-shell to make life easier for the "others" such as a panel > dock, > > > > >> or the ability to click on the minimised app in the panel can > only > > > > >> be a good thing.... therefore people who are happy to alt > tab/zoom > > > > >> in/out are satisfied.... and those that want a quicker solution > such > > > > >> as clicking on a dock/minimised app in the panel are also > > > > >> satisfied..... otherwise there is going to be people on one side > or > > > > >> another who are not going to be happy..... I have proposed the > Panel > > > > >> dock recently.... I don't see why it shouldn't be taken > seriously.... > > > > >> look at the forums, especially ubuntu forums with threads about > > > > >> gnome-shell.... most people do not like the way gnome-shell > handles > > > > >> windows.... I for one will move to another D.E if gnome-shell > gnome 3 > > > > >> is half baked and featureless... but I am putting my faith in the > devs > > > > >> that they will implement a way to use gnome-shell easy and > quickly > > > > >> with minimal fuss... The future will be interesting to see what > > > > >> happens........... > > > > > Please, rewrite this e-mail using correct punctuation, full > sentences > > > > > starting with a capital and ending with one dot, not hundreds. I > don't > > > > > even have the courage to read your message as-is. Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > Only actual user testing will be able to decide whether people > usually > > > > > feel good with the overview to switch apps, or whether they adapt > > > > > reasonably well after some time, being as happy as before. > > > > > See > http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Design/UsabilityTesting/PhaseI > > > > > > > > > > That said, I'm concerned that we, advanced users, make a intensive > use > > > > > of Alt+Tab currently, effectively often avoiding the overview. > People > > > > > that don't use the keyboard by lack of knowledge of shortcuts > might > > > > > encounter difficulties we don't have. If we feel Alt+Tab is > needed, then > > > > > accessing it's features with the mouse might be required too. > > > > > > > > > > Instead of complaining, I'd like somebody who really feels the > need for > > > > > a dock-like feature to actually step in and provide an extension > for it. > > > > > The Shell is written in Java Script, you could add a way to > activate > > > > > Alt+Tab with the mouse in a few lines. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > gnome-shell-list mailing list > > > > > gnome-shell-list gnome org > > > > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > gnome-shell-list mailing list > > > > gnome-shell-list gnome org > > > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-shell-list mailing list > gnome-shell-list gnome org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
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