Re: Re: Re: A task panel

[kaddy080 gmail com]

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Please, rewrite this e-mail using correct punctuation, full sentences
> starting with a capital and ending with one dot, not hundreds. I don't
> even have the courage to read your message as-is. Thanks.


This is not language school... Nor a correct punctuation contest....Don't tell me how I should write my emails...
I assume you can read and understand english so just deal with it

As for your comments about us complaining about the current useability of gnome-shell.. I consider it 
constructive criticism... coming from the perspective of an everyday user...... if Gnome devs will not listen to the average user.... 
then what? I guess gnome goes down the tube.............. dot dot dot dot dot...................

I have no programming experience as alot of us do not..... But I can surely tell you if something sucks from the perspective of an everyday
user needing to get his job done quickly and efficiently.... and to be frank... the current statuse of gnome-shell just plain sucks...
nothing to be offended about... its the truth, and something needs to be done to fix the gaps.... Mostly the responsibility of the devs working on gnome-shell after listening
to feedback from the users and considering contributions that make things easier.... like I said... I am not a programmer, but I have sent design submissions that are more well organised "design/usability" wise then the current state of gnome-shell....
listen to the users

kaddy
On , Tim Ryan <tryan linux com> wrote:
> I work with a group of IT folks and most of us are using Gnome on
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> Ubuntu as out main desktop. None of the others have been following
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> gnome-shell development or this list. I did a bit a research among our
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> small group, only seven people, to see how IT people use their
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> desktop, and gnome in particular. I mainly asked them about the window
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> switcher on the panel, and asked how they were using it.
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> I personally don't like the current version of gnome-shell, since it
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> takes away too much functionality, and I don't see any way to use the
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> window switcher the way most of us use it. The window switcher applet
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> does not only provide a way of switching between running applications,
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> it also give you a instant view of the status of all the running
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> applications. You don't have to stop what you are doing, they are all
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> there at a quick glance, all the time. I constantly have multiple
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> windows up, and a quick glance at the panel lets me know what I need.
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> Are there unread emails? Has compilation finished? video finally
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> loaded? To find this out with the shell, I need to stop what I'm doing
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> and go to the overlay, a definite distraction.
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> I thought maybe I was unusual for using it this way, but three out of
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> the seven use it this way. I know this isn't much of a sample, but if
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> my little group wants this functionality I'm sure there are many more
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> out there that feel the same.
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> Tim Ryan
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> Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
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> See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
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> On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Milan Bouchet-Valat nalimilan club fr> wrote:
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> > Le jeudi 20 mai 2010 à 14:33 +0000, kaddy080 gmail com a écrit :
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> >> I am very glad that you are satisfied with the current "non finished"
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> >> version of gnomeshell and how it handles window management..
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> >> unfortunately there are alot of other people out here who find the
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> >> current handling of windows bothersome, and not straightforward....
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> >> its a hell of alot easier and
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> >> quicker to click a minimised application to bring it back up rather
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> >> than zooming out and zooming in on the app, or alt tabbing... while
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> >> this may satisfy YOU.... it doesn't satisfy
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> >> alot of other users.... hence an additional modification to
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> >> gnome-shell to make life easier for the "others" such as a panel dock,
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> >> or the ability to click on the minimised app in the panel can only
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> >> be a good thing.... therefore people who are happy to alt tab/zoom
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> >> in/out are satisfied.... and those that want a quicker solution such
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> >> as clicking on a dock/minimised app in the panel are also
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> >> satisfied..... otherwise there is going to be people on one side or
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> >> another who are not going to be happy..... I have proposed the Panel
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> >> dock recently.... I don't see why it shouldn't be taken seriously....
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> >> look at the forums, especially ubuntu forums with threads about
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> >> gnome-shell.... most people do not like the way gnome-shell handles
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> >> windows.... I for one will move to another D.E if gnome-shell gnome 3
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> >> is half baked and featureless... but I am putting my faith in the devs
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> >> that they will implement a way to use gnome-shell easy and quickly
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> >> with minimal fuss... The future will be interesting to see what
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> >> happens...........
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> > Please, rewrite this e-mail using correct punctuation, full sentences
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> > starting with a capital and ending with one dot, not hundreds. I don't
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> > even have the courage to read your message as-is. Thanks.
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> >
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> > Only actual user testing will be able to decide whether people usually
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> > feel good with the overview to switch apps, or whether they adapt
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> > reasonably well after some time, being as happy as before.
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> > See http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Design/UsabilityTesting/PhaseI
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> >
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> > That said, I'm concerned that we, advanced users, make a intensive use
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> > of Alt+Tab currently, effectively often avoiding the overview. People
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> > that don't use the keyboard by lack of knowledge of shortcuts might
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> > encounter difficulties we don't have. If we feel Alt+Tab is needed, then
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> > accessing it's features with the mouse might be required too.
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> >
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> > Instead of complaining, I'd like somebody who really feels the need for
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> > a dock-like feature to actually step in and provide an extension for it.
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> > The Shell is written in _javascript_, you could add a way to activate
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> > Alt+Tab with the mouse in a few lines.
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> > Regards
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