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1. Re: gnome-shell-list Digest, Vol 20, Issue 7 (Marty Goetting)
2. All in applets (Kao Chen)
3. Re: Gnome Shell Tabbed Interface new mock-up (Giovanni Campagna)
4. RE: gnome-shell-list Digest, Vol 20, Issue 7 (Shane.Nuessler)
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Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 13:03:50 -0500
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> From: Jeroen Verhoeckx <
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> Hello Gnome Shell developers and users,
>
> I just got one respond on my last email. I'm glad that it was a positive
> one. However I'm wondering why I didn't get more. Is it because people don't
> like the idea or
> are there just very few people on this mailing list?
>
> Nonetheless I made a new mock-up ;-) !
>
> The differences with the former
>
mock-up is:
> * Moved the 'add app' button to the right because this is
> something that users shouldn't need to use often.
>
> If you want,
> you easily simulate
> the Gnome Shell Tabbed Interface:
> * Move the
> Window list to the top panel (off course this doesn't work exactly
> as the 'Application menu' in Gnome Shell!!)
> * Open Google Chrome
>
> The advantage of having the applications and the tabs at the top of the
> screen is that you can work much more
> efficiently. You just need to move the mouse just a few centimetres to get
> where you want. But
> the most important advantage is that the
> applications are always in
> view of the user and that he or she doesn't have to zoom out just to see
> what is open or closed.
>
> I'm hoping on a little more feedback his time ;-).
>
> Yours sincerely,
>
>
Jeroen
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Isn't this essentially copying the Chrome interface?
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Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 20:31:18 +0200
From: Kao Chen <
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To:
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Hi,
I have draw, some new mockups of my Gnome-Shell vision.
I have done them in a short time, so it's more for explain my goals than
build a marvelous design mockup.
I'm sure that you already know that many of us don't like the dashbar and
its heavy zoom-in/zoom-out animation.
I also disagree the static activity menu bar.
I prefer small animations and overlay menus or applets, like in our gnome
2.30.
Moving the background images is too much for my stomach.
So I suggest a return to the basic of the Gnome success: The Applet.
One of the most powerfull things in gnome is applet:
-You can add, suppress, move all the the
applet you want in the order you
want.
- If you don't use one, you can make it disappear. I you want to add a
specific, in the top left corner, you can.
With Gnome 2.30 you can display and manage all the tools you want in the way
what you want. You can never force a user to display a menu unnecessary for
him.
So, mockups are here ( it's heavy files):
The panel with some applet, like "Applications" "Documents" "Contacts" ....
http://ubuntuone.com/p/6Qb/If you don't want one of them, no problem it's an applet, just drop it.
You want to see all the current workspace click, in the left corner, on the
beautiful Gnome icons (it's an applet too).
We can imagine a simply animation like in MacOS withF11/F12
We don't resize the background image.
http://ubuntuone.com/p/6Qc/All the application stay in background, you can open an menu and work as
usual.
http://ubuntuone.com/p/6Qd/Or without the workspace view, the access to this menu is faster, so you can
use it like a task bar.
http://ubuntuone.com/p/6Qe/An applet for the documents and device:
http://ubuntuone.com/p/6Qf/Inspiring from the sezen application:
http://seilo.geekyogre.com/2010/06/concepts-for-a-new-open-file-dialog-and-search-dialog-using-zeitgeist/If you want, an applet for your
bookmarks:
http://ubuntuone.com/p/6Qg/We are in an Internet world now.
An applet to manage your contacts and have a quick access to them.
http://ubuntuone.com/p/6Qh/A complete implementation of the clock:
http://ubuntuone.com/p/6Rd/And all the specific stuff you want
http://ubuntuone.com/p/6Rn/Gnome is powerfull because it can adapt to all the strange desire.
Don't fix menus and applets to a corner or whatever. Free the menus!!!
Regards
Kao
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Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 22:05:54 +0200
From: Giovanni Campagna <
scampa giovanni gmail com>
To: Jeroen Verhoeckx <
jeroenverh2002 yahoo com>
Cc: Gnome Shell List <
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Subject: Re: Gnome Shell Tabbed Interface new mock-up
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It's not that it's not a good idea, it's just not what Gnome Shell is
trying to achieve (focusing on documents + tasks/activities, rather
than applications), as I see it.
Nevertheless, you could try implementing it as an extension, given
some expected work to make the panel extensible and to add an useful
API for extension developers.
Giovanni
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Jeroen Verhoeckx
<
jeroenverh2002 yahoo com> wrote:
> Hello Gnome Shell developers and users,
>
> I just got one respond on my last email. I'm glad that it was a positive one. However I'm wondering why I didn't get more. Is it because people don't like
the idea or
> are there just very few people on this mailing list?
>
> Nonetheless I made a new mock-up ;-) !
>
> The differences with the former
> mock-up is:
> * Moved the 'add app' button to the right because this is
> something that users shouldn't need to use often.
>
> If you want,
> you easily simulate
> the Gnome Shell Tabbed Interface:
> * Move the
> Window list to the top panel (off course this doesn't work exactly
> as the 'Application menu' in Gnome Shell!!)
> * Open Google Chrome
>
> The advantage of having the applications and the tabs at the top of the screen is that you can work much more
> efficiently. You just need to move the mouse just a few centimetres to get where you want. But
> the most important advantage is that the
> applications are always in
> view of the user and that he or she doesn't have to
zoom out just to see what is open or closed.
>
> I'm hoping on a little more feedback his time ;-).
>
> Yours sincerely,
>
> Jeroen
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Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 09:00:53 +1000
From: "Shane.Nuessler" <
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Tabs are a not a bad way to go, I see Thunderbird email client starting
to use tabs rather than pop up a lot of windows. Personally I prefer the
app to "contain itself".
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Hello Gnome Shell developers and users,
I just got one respond on my last email. I'm glad that it was a positive
one. However I'm wondering why I didn't get more. Is it because people
don't like the idea or
are there just very few people on this mailing list?
Nonetheless I made a new mock-up ;-) !
The differences with the former
mock-up is:
* Moved the 'add app' button to the right because this is
something that users shouldn't need to use often.
If you want,
you easily simulate
the
Gnome Shell Tabbed Interface:
* Move the
Window list to the top panel (off course this doesn't work exactly
as the 'Application menu' in Gnome Shell!!)
* Open Google Chrome
The advantage of having the applications and the tabs at the top of the
screen is that you can work much more
efficiently. You just need to move the mouse just a few centimetres to
get where you want. But
the most important advantage is that the
applications are always in
view of the user and that he or she doesn't have to zoom out just to see
what is open or closed.
I'm hoping on a little more feedback his time ;-).
Yours sincerely,
Jeroen
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