Re: Get rid of the scrollbars

[Ross Smith <myxiplx googlemail com>]

Thanks for the link, that video does look interesting.  It could do
with a few extra visual clues to the features, but it's got some nice
benefits:

- No need to look for the scroll tab location, just click & drag to scroll
   (especially handy as with some colour schemes I find the gnome
scroll tab is not that obvious)
- Effectively huge buttons for scrolling up & down

The main change to me is that it's removing the page up/down feature
that's hardly ever used (since some times it's a huge area, and some
times it's tiny), and replacing it with the ability to grab anywhere &
scroll.

I'm not actually sure about having the up/down click arrows appearing,
it's a nice idea, but it might be one that's a bit too clever for its
own good.

What I'm wondering is whether you could just use this to replace the
page up/down with something better?  In fact, could you add that
behaviour without breaking anything existing?
- Single click in that area does page up/down as normal
- Click and drag now scrolls

Ross

PS.  Is there any way at all you could add anonymous usability
tracking to Gnome?  Getting some feedback on how often people use
features like this would surely be useful?

PPS.  Once again, this would be a feature I'd like to add to my 'tip
system' - when somebody drags the scroll bar, or clicks to page
up/down, let them know about being able to drag anywhere.



On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Florian Ludwig <dino phidev org> wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 09:12 -0400, Jeremy Perry wrote:
>> Another option is to reduce what we already have today into
>> something
>> very minimal when not in use. The scrollbar could be represented as
>> a
>> simple line down the right side, giving a clue that there is
>> scrollable area and a sense of how much, as indicated by the length
>> of
>> a  highlighted portion of the line. When the user gestures over the
>> scrollbar area, a fuller, more conventional scrollbar would appear
>> with arrows, etc.
> Personally I dont like those "auto hiding" UI features, using them (or
> using them by accident) is often more a fight than a usage. Esp. with
> small targets like scrollbars it might be nasty. But I agree that there
> is room for improvement on scrollbars.
>
> Talking about scrollbars you might have a look on:
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=530413
>
> Some interesting ideas and points brought up in the comments, also the
> demo is interesting. It might got a lot to improve but shows nicely
> other ways how to interact with scrollbars.
>
> --
> Florian Ludwig <dino phidev org>
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