Re: All GNOME Shell Developers.

[Adam Gignac <lightstrike12345 hotmail com>]

On Sun, 2009-12-20 at 00:15 -0600, Mathew Howard wrote:

Yes, I see your point. I agree that we need a way to only show windows on the current workspace, although I'm not sure what the best way to implement it would be.

I think the developers have said they have other plans for the window name in the panel, but I could see a hot corner working.

Sam Illingworth wrote:

The overlay fails as a window switcher as soon as you have a lot of windows and/or a lot of workspaces, because every window becomes tiny so you can't see what's in it.  We're wasting space both on the rest of the overlay and on other workspaces when all we want to do is switch between windows on the current workspace.

How about a hot corner that brings up a window list for the current workspace (it could be the same style as the alt tab)? Or, my preferred option, clicking the name of the current window in the panel could bring up this list. But if you have multiple desktop you definitely need a way of just seeing things on the current one - the whole point of separating things out onto other workspaces is so they don't distract from the task at hand, the windows for which are on the current workspace.

On 19 Dec 2009, at 10:44 PM, Mathew Howard <mathew litewire net> wrote:

I don't see how Gnome-Shell fails on any of these. Firefox's download window is simple to find in the overview, besides you can always get to it from Firefox's menu - or put a button for it on the tool bar if you like. GIMP works fine - the only windows that show up in the overview are the actual image windows and the other windows automatically come to the foreground when you select one. On MPlayer you do have to go to the overview twice to get both the controls and the video, but I see little difference from any other system where you have to select both windows separately anyway.

Danté Ashton wrote:

I do have a few other examples where the current GNOME-Shell would fail;

FIrefox and it's separate download window.

GIMP and it's multiple windows.

MPlayer

A Dock is impractical here, as all of them are currently incapable of
showing me what's in the window. Unless we either have the classic way
of managing windows, someone gets them to be all grouped toghter, or
distributions start replacing GIMP with GIMPShop and Firefox with an
embedded download window...
There needs to be some level of window management in an activites
window, and not just in the overlay.
On 19/12/09 04:20, Corrie Strydom wrote:
> I like the gnome-shell, and yes its very easy to get used to. One
> idea/problem, could someone make it possibe to change in what corner
> you want the "zoom" to be? I have this annoying habit of pushing the
> pointer top-left everytime I'm typing something. I'd like my zoom to
> be bottom left.
>
>
> On 19/12/2009, Sriram Ramkrishna<sri ramkrishna me> wrote:
>
>> It only took about 1 day for me. It was very natural for me. Taking one
>> person's impressions and then saying the whole idea sucks makes a lousy
>> argument against the gnome-shell concept.
>>
>> sri
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Денис Черемисов
>> <denis cheremisov net>wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Few weeks to get comfortable? Man, are you crazy?
>>> It's too long and only proves the gnome-shell idea sucks.
>>>
>>> 2009/12/19 Bob Hazard<linuxoflondon googlemail com>
>>>
>>> It's actually more useful to someone with only one workspace because
>>>
>>>> they tend to have even more overlapping windows.
>>>>
>>>> It only needs one click to switch windows anyway. The top left corner
>>>> is a big target you can do a very approximate gesture to trigger the
>>>> zoom without clicking.
>>>>
>>>> After a while it becomes second nature and I was surprised that it
>>>> feels very old fashioned to go back to a flat desktop.
>>>>
>>>> Try Docky if you find the transition uncomfortable but it only takes a
>>>> few weeks.
>>>>
>>>> 2009/12/18 Danté Ashton<mentalomega googlemail com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey all.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been watching GNOME Shell for a while, but there is one problem
>>>>>
>>>> that I
>>>>
>>>>> really can't see being resolved.
>>>>>
>>>>> How useful is this to someone who uses one desktop? Just one?
>>>>> Never-mind
>>>>>
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>> other one, or three, or four...
>>>>>
>>>>> Why should I, the user, have to perform three extra clicks just to do
>>>>>
>>>> what
>>>>
>>>>> it takes me one to do now?
>>>>>
>>>>> There has been less video/photo material to consume then I could safely
>>>>>
>>>> make
>>>>
>>>>> a judgement on, and if the 'one desktop' problem has been addressed and
>>>>> solved, I apologize for taking up your time.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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What I've got right now (outside of Gnome-Shell) is the top-left corner set up as a hotcorner for the Compiz Expo plugin to sort-of simulate the Gnome-Shell workspace switching. The bottom corner is a hotcorner for the Scale plugin, which tiles the windows on the current workspace. It's working pretty good for me, but I reckon just a hotcorner by itself would be kind of startling. What about a small icon in the corner? Maybe just a small pic of a couple windows, when you mouseover it they move into a grid, and click to tile the windows for real? I've attached a quick mockup of what I mean.

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