Re: [gnome-love] GNOME needs some good SDK

[Michele De Pascalis <glaedr il drago gmail com>]

Mono? Please...we have some software written in C#, look at Banshee, GNOME Do/Docky, and it's slow, jammy and 
poorly contributed. C# hase a huge runtime, and so does Mono, if not worse. And C is far too low level for a 
good API of the kind we need. I think we should go on C++, it's the only way to save performance and 
coherence.

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Il giorno 24/feb/2012, alle ore 16:53, Anand Arumugam <anand arumug gmail com> ha scritto:

> Mono for one, is a good start but there is a huge debate around its
> openness... someone familiar on that can elaborate...
>
> apart from that, i do agree --- gnome needs a single framework
> (something like Qt) instead of the myriad of options... these options
> (though its nice to play with) plays to the advantage of apple and
> MS...
>
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 5:42 AM, Atul  jangra <atuljangra66 gmail com> wrote:
> > This is exactly why I started GNOME development so late. Undoubtedly It is
> > the fastest software , but with poor SDKs , and APIs.
> > We should step forward in this direction .
> > Regards
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Allan Day <allanpday gmail com> wrote:
> > > On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Michele Alex D. De Pascalis
> > > <glaedr il drago gmail com> wrote:
> > > > Just look around: Apple and Microsofts have their own SDKs, APIs and
> > > > IDEs perfectly working with them. Compared to these, developing for GNOME is
> > > > way too hard and complicated. Maybe we have the fastest software, but we
> > > > have to write with Gtk, which is just a toolkit, without anything else
> > > > really integrating it. And C is over, so autogenerating a wrapper isn't a
> > > > good solution (talking about gtkmm). If a newbie gets in touch with Cocoa
> > > > and Xcode, he gets templates, he gets wide documentation, he connects events
> > > > with handlers by a drag'n'drop, cutting on the IDE's editor.
> > > > But it's not just about the IDE itself, it's also about paradigms: Apple
> > > > chose Model View Controller and Delegation, and everything is written around
> > > > these, and it takes seconds to add a View to your application.
> > > > I'm saying this because I've been learning Cocoa for eight months, and I
> > > > had learnt C++ before. Even now I know C++ is better in many ways, but
> > > > trying back Gtk made me understand it's not about the language, now. Those
> > > > who write iOS or Mac apps know what I mean with all this.
> > >
> > > Completely agree. I think that a lot of other GNOME contributors would
> > > agree also.
> > >
> > > I really hope that we will have an SDK one day.
> > >
> > > Allan
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