Re: Some things I think GNOME should improve

[Trond Husø <tr-huso online no>]

> I just see a few applications there. Tomboy, Banshee and some specific
> manuals about network, gconf and so on. On the other hand, I don't see
> why Evolution help would bother you while you're looking for Banshee
> help. You could add the option to See -> All documents, for those who
> bothers them to have that column.
When I look for help for the application I am using, I tend to just to
look at help for that application and not for e.g. banshee (if that was
not the application I was using at the time).
Application help should be related to the application it is related to
and not all applications available on the computer.

It should also be part of application development to write a help
document. It can also help the developer to see that the program does
what it is supposed to do.

> I don't see why you would spend more time this way. In the end, you'd
> save time, because you could close the windows without clicking the
> window title, looking for "Exit" (which location depends on the
> options that had the application) and repeat the proccess again if you
> want to close several maximized windows. The point is that exit of an
> application (which is something we do constantly) this way is
> inefficient, and it is because of options which appear on the window
> titles.
In G3 if I want to close more than one window, I either go into the hot
corner and get all windows minified, then I click on the close icon on
each program that I want to close. Or I press the super-key.
Or I use Alt+f4 which is standard in Windows and it also seems in Gnome
for closing an application.
> 2013/4/2 Adam Tauno Williams <awilliam whitemice org>:
> > Eh?  What metric tells you these are "barely used"?
>
> You can look for information about it, but most users use default
> settings. For example:
> http://www.uie.com/brainsparks/2011/09/14/do-users-change-their-settings/
>
> And I am pretty sure that "Help" is even less used.
I very rarely use/change settings for a program. If I do it is because I
have some preferred keyboard settings from other OS - e.g. Open Office /
MS Office. 


> > No, seems far far less intuitive to me.  I am in the application - why
> > can't I just adjust the settings there?  I'm already there.  Why do I
> > need to go to something else?  And if I open Help from an application ->
> > I get the help FOR THAT APPLICATION!
Exactly 
> > This seems like modularization for the sake of modularization.  And
> > breaks the flow of using GNOME apps vs. non-GNOME apps - which will not
> > follow the convention and the settings app will be oblivious to them.
> > And if I develop that an app I want to work on GNOME, it won't follow
> > that convention if I also want it to work on any other platform /
> > environment.
>
> The flow is already broken. Nautilus is closed differently of
> Chromium, for example.
The shortcuts are different, but you can close it with alt+f4. As for
Nautilus. I agree that it would be better with ctrl+q to close the
current window and ctrl+w to close all windows. But on the other hand,
it could be that statistics have shown that most people want to close
all nautilus windows when using ctrl+q and not just the current window.

If I want to see one improvement, it would be that you flip through
windows and applications with alt+tab and not alt+tab for applications
and then alt+pipe for windows in that application. 

Trond
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