Re: Events for translators

[Марко М. Костић <marko m kostic gmail com>]

Дана 3.7.17. у 11:59, Carlos Soriano пише:
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> From: Carlos Soriano <csoriano gnome org>
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> Subject: Events for translators
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> Hello all,
>
> Lately we have been trying to define what events GNOME can sponsor and how.
> You can read more in the wiki [0]
Hi there!

Marko here from the Serbian GNOME team. I am also an member of the 
Mozilla Serbian team,
and I participated in two translation races (called L10n hackathons on 
the Mozilla side) and
I hope I can help you a bit by sharing my experiences.
> One of the ideas is a "Translation race" event. Basically various people
> get together to learn how to translate and translate some module with some
> of you.
>
> However I need a little of help to figure out how that event could be. The
> questions I have are:
> - How much time do you think it would take to set up, teach and translate a
> module?
This one is hard. There are many variables. The process of creating an 
account on the Damned
Lies and setting up the translation tool wouldn't take long. Maybe 15 
minutes max. But the time
for translating one module depends on the size of the module itself. For 
example, GIMP module
is out of the question (both the interface and the documentation ones). 
So that probably means
that we would guide newbies through translating some smaller interface 
module (ie. gnome-characters).
That would probably take one classroom hour (45 minutes) to translate 
and review the translations.
Also, some locales may not have available interface modules for 
translating, like ours. We are at 99%.
We do have documentation modules for translating available but those are 
quite harder than the
interface ones.
> - What items would be interesting for you? (e.g. stickers, some cake,
> snacks,....)
A snack/coffee/juice is a must for any event. There should also be 
stickers for people to have
some kind of souvenir/memory of the event, to make them want to 
attend/participate in the next one.
> - How many people could a single organiser handle in a comfortable way?
Mostly depends on the person and his/her teaching skills and organizing 
skills. I wouldn't go over 5
persons per organizer.
> - Do you think "translated one module per person" is doable in that time
> and a good way to measure the success of the event? If not, what do you
> propose as a measurement of success of the event?
Modules aren't equal, sadly. I wouldn't measure success by the number of 
translated modules.

In Mozilla, every l10n team leader was required to create the work plan 
for any given two-day
hackathon, via an pull request on GitHub.
At the end of the second day, coordinator for the given locale reviewed 
the progress of the group and
reported the percentage of the completed tasks. Even the members of the 
group reported their own
view of the completed tasks by fulfilling a survey at the end of the 
hackathon.

I would suggest that every locale's coordinator construct a work plan 
for the translation race which
would include goals and ways to measure success because every locale is 
somewhat different and the
coordinator for the given locale knows the 'vibe' of his/her community 
the best so he/she can decide
how to measure success.
> - Do you have a canonical guide an orgnizer should follow and make the
> people follow? (similar to /Newcomers).
I'm not aware of the one on the GNOME side. You may find inspiration for 
writing one by looking
at the canonical wiki page for the l10n Mozilla hackathon done in 
Barcelona[0].

[0] https://wiki.mozilla.org/L10n:Meetings/2017_Barcelona_Workshop
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Marko M. Kostić