Re: integrating vertimus in damned-lies

[gil forcada <gilforcada guifi net>]

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El dc 25 de 07 del 2007 a les 00:18 +0100, en/na Dimitris Glezos va
escriure:
> O/H gil forcada έγραψε:
> > during the GUADEC Danilo make a call to help in GTP[1] and after this
> > (he will put the minutes somewhere I think) with him, Vincent, Sílvia
> > and me we discuss about Vertimus[2] (in action[3]), a kind of
> > damned-lies but with users and keeping track of who is working in which
> > module and that sort of things
> > 
> > all 4 agree that this could be really useful to be integrated in
> > damend-lies but it's not that easy as copy a bunch of files
> 
> I agree as well, and this would be very useful for some translation teams in
> Fedora as well. I am looking forward to this project and willing to help out.
> 
> > vertimus is written in php+mysql+cron (to get the po files from GNOME
> > SVN) and damned-lies is written in python
> > 
> > OTOH we can take advantage of damned-lies since the cron will not be
> > necessary, but in a ideal world the accounts would to be integrated in
> > GNOME LDAP, so it's not only rewrite from php to python (plus changes
> > here and there) but we have to talk to the sysadmins guys
> 
> So the thing is that both backend-based authentication (eg. LDAP) and app-only
> one (eg. with simple registration) should ideally be supported.

I think this will not be really good having some users in LDAP in some
local, maybe creating semi-automatic accounts with no permissions in SVN
for the contributors will be the best

with the semi-automatic accounts I mean, filling a form and the
sysadmins having just to accept the account

> Maybe this is a good chance to talk a bit about TurboGears. I've been working a
> lot on DL lately, and on an addon for it written in TG. Maybe I'm just not used
> to do it or I'm just a lazy programmer, but I admit that it was much more fun
> hacking in TG in an MVC style than plain python code.
> 
> The two projects (transifex and vertimus) have similar (new for DL)
> requirements: need to access the model a lot in RW mode (non-XML), require form
> handling and authentication. If there is a moment to discuss the (even remote!)
> possibility of porting DL to a web framework like TG, now would probably be it. :)
> 
> BTW, the fedora infrastructure has created a TG-based package that talks to the
> fedora account system, which could be used by GNOME to talk to the GNOME account
> system. If this happens, hooking up a TG-based app to GAS would be as simple as
> installing the package on the system (either with deb/rpm or with easy_install)
> and writing 3 line thing like:
> 
>   from gnome.accounts.gas import AccountSystem
>   gas = AccountSystem()
>   user, groups = gas.get_user_info(username)
> 
> The downside would be that there will be some initial work (not much I think
> since DL already uses SQLObject and Cheetah templates) and a learning curve for
> existing contributors. However both of these are trivial compared to the
> maintainability IMO.
> 
> -d
> 
> 
> -- 
> Dimitris Glezos
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> 
> "He who gives up functionality for ease of use
> loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous)
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