Re: signal-to-noise on d-d-l



Luis Villa wrote:
I think any healthy project that wants to think of
itself as a single project needs a main list- d-d-l has been that list,
and is in danger of splintering, which sucks.

Long time lurker here, not a dev (just a fan) but I've been around long enough to spot trends so I thought I would comment on this.

IMO the -devel lists exist for the GNOME developers. While the development of GNOME is done "in the public", any noise done on a -devel list does nothing more than distract developers with opinions that are better kept in other mediums.

For example, the Evolution 2.0 thread should have ended at "Maintainer says no, end of thread." But it didn't. Now we have more opinions of what GNOME developers _should_ be doing instead of real work going on. Ditto with the flag thread. Users like myself have gnomedesktop.org and umpteen avenues to express our views, material like this shouldn't be cluttering -devel lists, those should be used by actual GNOME developers to get work done, period.

If I want to complain about default behaviors or $my_favorite_module being ommited then there are plenty of places I can complain about without adding noise to the -devel lists. I for one trust that GNOME developers read gnomedesktop.org (or whatever) when they're looking for feedback, they don't need me posting on nautilus-devel wondering when they're going to fix my pet crack bug.

If Luis can't even recommend a -devel list for a colleague that is interested in helping then they need to be fixed. As a GNOME user I subscribe to the lists to monitor what the devs are working on and the future of the GNOME desktop, not catch up on every user's opinion on the 2.5.3 release name.

My 2 cents.

-jorge
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